I'm playing with an embedded Linux device and looking for a way to get my application code to communicate with a web interface. I need to show some status information from the application on the devices web interface and also would like to have a way to inform the application of any user actions like uploaded files etc. PHP-seems to be a good way to make the interface, but the communication part is harder. I have found the following options, but not sure which would be the easiest and most convenient to use.
Sockets. Have to enable sockets for the PHP first to try this. Don't know if enabling will take much more space.
Database. Seems like an overkill solution.
Shared file. Seems like a lot of work.
Named pipes. Tried this with some success, but not sure if there will be problems with for example on simultaneous page loads. Maybe sockets are easier?
What would be the best way to go? Is there something I'm totally missing? How is this done in those numerous commercial Linux based network switches?
I recently did something very similar using sockets, and it worked really well. I had a Java application that communicates with the device, which listened on a server socket, and the PHP application was the client.
So in your case, the PHP client would initialize the connection, and then the server can reply with the status of the device.
There's plenty of tutorials on how to do client/server socket communication with most languages, so it shouldn't take too long to figure out.
What kind of device is it?
If you work with something like a shared file, how will the device be updated?
How will named pipes run into concurrency problems that sockets will avoid?
In terms of communication from the device to PHP, a file seems perfect. PHP can use something basic like file_get_contents(), the device can just write to the file. If you're worried about the moment in time the file is updated to a quick length check.
In terms of PHP informing the device of what to do, I'm also leaning towards files. Have the device watch a directory, and have the script create a file there with something like file_put_contents($path . uniqid(), $command); That way should two scripts run at the exact sime time, you simply have two files for the device to work with.
Embedded linux boxes for routing with web interface don't use PHP. They use CGI and have shell scripts deliver the web page.
For getting information from the application to the web interface, the Shared file option seems most reasonable to me. The application can just write information into the file which is read by PHP.
The other way round it looks not so good at first. PHP supports locking of files, but it most probably doesn't work on a system level. Perhaps one solution is that in fact every PHP script which has information for the application creates it own file (with a unique id filename, e.g. based on timestamp + random value). The application could watch a designated directory for these files to pop-up. After processing them, it could just delete them. For that, the application only needs write permission on the directory (so file ownership is not an issue).
If possible, use shell scripts.
I did something similar, i wrote a video surveillance application. The video part is handled by motion (a great FOSS package). The application is a turn-key solution on standardized hardware, used to monitor slot-machine casinos. It serves as a kiosk system locally and is accessible via internet. I wrote all UI code in PHP, the local display is a tightly locked down KDE desktop with a full screen browser defaulting to localhost. I used shell scripts to interact with motion and the OS.
On a second thought:
If you can use self-compiled applications on the device: Write a simple program that returns the value you want and use PHP's exec() or passthru() or system().
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I develop some python applications so I know how to do this in python locally, but am working with some PHP developers (I know nothing of PHP) who say this can't be done in PHP. This is the idea: A php driven remote website which creates / hosts files. Using a web browser I want to download from this website a series of folders and files onto the local machine overwriting already existing files/folders with the same name. So in my browser I click on a download button which asks me to browse to a local or network folder to download the folders and files to. Currently we are just downloading a single .zip file containing all these files and folders which we have to unzip and manually move, copy paste, etc, very messy and cumbersome. There must be a better way with PHP and some other language?
No, it's not possible to access from a PHP (server-side language) to the Client Machine (from a Browser) and manipulate directly his file system, hard drive, or something like that. This is not the way it works.
Just think about it for a moment, if it could be accomplish, we have serious security threat, for example we visit a page like somebadassdude.com and they have a PHP script that create unlimited folders and files to fill up all our HD... and that is soft.
But hopefully the browsers dont allow this by security design.
Look at this:
As you can see at the Diagram, the Browser and the Server response each other through HTTP Requests & Responses. There's no a communication between them like a local program running at the Client OS. You treat with his Browser, and there's no way to command the Browser to manipulate the client hard-disk, and if that can happend, look at the security consern that I mentioned before.
To be more clearer, your PHP script is running at your server, not at the client machine. It only response when a user/browser request a specific resource at your server, and response with a HTTP Response, and it can contain HTML, or Json, or a File (to be downloaded or visualized by external program), or whatever.
You have limited options:
If it is something for a Intranet, or
local network, and you have access to that network, locally or
remotely like with a VPN access. You could share a folder over
network, in that way you can use a Php Script or Python script in
order to create the folders and copy the files to it, without have to
download a zip, and unzip manually from the Browser.
Using a Java Applet. Why? Because a Java Applet runs
on the Client Side, so you have access to his computer (if the user
allow it), and you certeinly can manipulate (create, delete, read,
etc. folders and files) his hard-drive. So when the user choose the files to download,
you fire the Java Applet, and let em request to the server the files
that the user has marked. When you have the files downloaded, create
or overwrite the files on the client machine.
Create and run a program in the Client Machine, in detriment of a Web Page, by this way you gain the needed flexibility. But of course, it have his own complexities.
So IHMO i think the Java Applet maybe is the best suited solution for you:
Do not have to change much your actual business model
It doesn't require a large time investment.
It is cross-platform, Java can work on a plenty of operating systems, and Java Applets in the most popular browsers.
By the way, I personally dislike Java, but it's a tool, and you have to use the right tool for a job.
Cheers.
I got a situation where I have lots of system configurations/logs off which I have to generate a quick review of the system useful for troubleshooting.
At first I'd like to build kind of web interface(most probably a php site) that gives me the rough snapshot of the system configuration using the available information from support logs. The support logs reside on mirrored servers (call it log server) & the server on which I'll be hosting the site (call it web server) will have to ssh/sftp to access them.
My rough sketch:
The php script on web server will make some kind of connection to the log server & go to the support logs location.
It'll then trigger a perl script at logs server, which will collect relevant stuffs from all the config/log files into some useful xml (there'd be multiple of those).
Someway these xml files are transferred to web server & php will use it to create the html out of it.
I'm very new to php & would like to know if this is feasible or if there's any other alternative/better way of doing this?
It would be great if someone could provide more details for the same.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT:
Sorry I missed to mention that the logs aren't the ones generated on live machine, I'm dealing with sustenance activities for NAS storage device & there'll be plenty of support logs coming from different end customers which folks from my team would like to have a look at.
Security is not a big concern here (I'm ok with using plain text authentication to log servers) as these servers can be accessed only through company's VPN.
Yes, PHP can process XML. A simple way is to use SimpleXML: http://php.net/manual/en/book.simplexml.php
While you can do this using something like expect (I think there is something for PHP too..), I would recommend doing this in two separate steps:
A script, running via Cron, retrieves data from servers and store it locally
The PHP script reads from the local stored data only, in order to generate reports.
This way, you have these benefits:
You don't have to worry about how to make your php script connect via ssh to servers
You avoid the security risks related to allowing your webserver user log in to other servers (high risk in case your script gets hacked)
In case of slow / absent connectivity to servers, long time to retrieve logs, etc. you php script will still be able to quickly show the data -- maybe, along with some error message explaining what went wrong during latest update
In any case, you php script will terminate much quicker since it only has to retrieve data from local storage.
Update: ssh client via php
Ok, from your latest comment I understand that what you need is more a "front-end browser" to display the files, than a report generation tool or similar; in this case you can use Expect (as I stated before) in order to connect to remote machines.
There is a PECL extension for PHP providing expect functionality. Have a look at the PHP Expect manual and in particular at the usage examples, showing how to use it to make SSH connections.
Alternate way: taking files from NFS/SAMBA share
Another way, avoiding to use SSH, is to browse files on the remote machines via locally-mounted share.
This is expecially useful in case interesting files are already shared by a NAS, while I wouldn't recommend this if that would mean sharing the whole root filesystem or huge parts of it.
I am looking for a way to run an executable on the server and display its UI in the browser, so that the user can interact. Is it possible? If so, please suggest some ways of how I should do this.
I think that this will have something to do with Flash, Flex, ActiveX (choose which applicable), but I am not sure and that is why I am actually asking this question.
Before you ask, "What do I need this for?", I would like to create a simple Intranet website for my local network so that my relatives can use few applications from their browsers instead of network shares or remote desktop connections.
The website will be done in PHP and running on Apache.
Any ideas, people?
This is difficult because you cannot magically transform the UI of those applications to a UI that would render in a browser. Also, your Delphi applications likely dont have any entry points for handling HTTP based requests. Even if you could provide those via PHP you'd still have to delegate them to the executable then somehow, which means your Delphi app needs to provide the full functionality via a command line interface or similar means.
EDIT came across https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO-qca9ddqg. The video shows how to run applications built with a GTK3 UI, like GIMP, in the browser. The application itself is run and maintained completely on the server. PHP does have bindings for GTK though not for GTK3, so while it's not currently possible, it is in theory.
i have a database that is written in access. the access mdb file connects via ODBC to a local mysql database. i have a bunch of sql and vba code in the access file. i dont expect the database to surpass 100mb. currently it is around 10mb. i will need to have multiple user access. (no more than 10 users at a time)
i need to convert this database from being a local one to a web server, and i need to make a web interface for it.
how do i get the current local instance of mysql database to run off a webserver? i am currently running it off wampserver 2.0. i dont have experience putting a database on a webserver.
i have an OK vb.net background. i have never done any web applications. here's a picture of the access form that i may need to replicate to work off a website:
alt text http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1025/83882488.jpg
which platform should i use as the front end to this thing?
would it be possible to just run this access file off a webserver instead of programming a new front end for it? is that not a smart idea?
thank you for your help!
If your webserver has TCP connectivity to your existing database server, and its hosted in a suitable place (eg, don't have your webserver in a datacenter connecting to a database server on your office DSL connection), then no move is required.
If you do need to move it, it's as easy as creating a backup/dump, and restoring it elsewhere.
As far as the frontend, there are MANY technologies that will do what you need (ASP.NET, PHP, Python, Ruby, Perl, Java being the most popular ones, not necessarily in that order).
Use something you are comfortable with, or that you are interested in learning (provided you have the time to do so)
Use something that runs properly on your target webserver. Really, ASP.NET is the only one that has any major issue here, as it's limited to Windows.
Access itself has no direct web-accessible version. A Google search finds some apps that claim to convert Access forms to web-based, but I will not link to any because I don't know how well they work. I'm certainly leary of anything like that, because web apps are a different breed from Windows apps. If you are going to go that route, be sure they actually generate HTML output; make sane, clean source; and offer a free trial so you can verify it actually works.
Really though, a form like that is reasonably easy to reproduce with some basic knowledge of server-side programming and some HTML.
I don't have any experience migrating access to a web-based interface, although I have heard of people going straight from access to a web page. MySql is exceptionally easy to migrate. MySQL.com has a program called mysqldump that comes with the standard install of MySQL that allows you to export your database straight to a text file that can be used then with mysqldump to import it on another server. I don't believe the WAMP server comes with the command line tools although they can be downloaded from mysql.com. However, if it has phpMyAdmin, then there is also an export feature with that as well that will generate a .sql file that can be imported to the webserver using phpMyAdmin. One thing to keep in mind though is that I have had very little success mixing and matching these methods: ie, I've never been able to get a mysqldump-created file to work with phpMyAdmin and vice versa.
Good luck!
The link will help you to export and import mySQL database
May be on Windows web server there is an opportunity to run Access files, you can check, but any way if you have some programming skills, I would say that it is not difficult to crate a php script which will query your database info and will edit.
Migrating an Access application to the web is quite difficult, because you can't translate an Access form 1:1 into a web page. Web apps are stateless, whereas Access is built around the concept of bound controls and bound datasets.
Secondly, it is impossible to easily replicate an Access subform.
Third, you lose tons of events that Access forms and controls are built around.
In general, a web page that performs the same task as an Access form will bear little or no resemblance to the Access form, simply because the methods for accomplishing the same tasks and the UI widgets available to you are so completely different.
One thing to consider is whether your users need a web application or if they just need to use your existing Access application over the Internet. If the latter is the case, Windows Terminal Server/Citrix can do the job for a lot less money, since there's no conversion needed. You do need to provision a Windows Terminal Server, set up a VPN and purchase CALs for the users, but the costs of those are going to be much less than the cost of rebuilding the app for web deployment.
It may not be an appropriate solution, but it's one that you should consider, I think.
I've been scouring Google to find out how I can make Flash bring at least two users together in an environment. What I've been trying to do is, for example: both users load http://example.com/myflashenvironment.html, and on that page is the same flashenv.swf file that they both see from two different computers. In the flashenv.swf there is a movieclip object that is draggable. I want to make it so if user 1 drags the movieclip then user 2 can see it being dragged, over the Internet in some kind of online type of deal. I've been trying to do it at runtime, like an online game.
I've been searching google and I've found things about sockets, but it's very hard to just jump right in when you are me. I've tried to figure out so far that I need a PHP file that creates a connects to my server with fsockopen, and then I need to create a socket? But then I don't know how to have user 1 write the (x, y) coordinates of the movieclip when he drags it and have user 2 automatically pick up those same coordinates.
And please believe me, I used this as a last resort to see if anyone knew what I am talking about. Google just isn't cutting it tonight.
It sounds to me like you need to read up on how to actually use sockets. Once you understand how they work, how you should structure your program should become very clear. You could serialize a small object with whatever you want the other user to see (like a coordinate change, for example).
But nevermind that, PHP is not what you want. PHP is not made for this sort of thing. What you need is some kind of standalone server - you would have to roll your own using C++ or Java, for example. PHP is made for short requests - you can't run it as a server. Yes, it does have sockets, but they're also made for quick one-shot connections. You need something that is always running, I'm assuming.
You should check out some of the flash multiuser servers that are already made if you don't want to roll your own. Red5 is a free one, and SmartFoxServer is a more fully featured server, but it is not free (they do have a free version, but it only supports a few concurrent users).
It is questionable (but not without precedence) to write and run a server in PHP.
The suggested Java based solution fits better for your needs.
If you are totally new to multi-user Flash, I recommend using SmartFox Server. It is very easy to use and there are many tutorials.
it is possible to create the socket server you want in php, but i don't really recommend it.
the difference to traditional php scripts is, you wouldn't run it like it's called over the browser, but a long-running (think infinite loop) cli-server-application (more like java)
simplified it works like this:
php: the script starts and listens for incoming request
flash: the flash app is started and connects to the server
php: the connection (from 2) is stored in an array
flash: now if the user moves his movieclip, the coordinates are sent to the script
php: data arrives (the coordinates from 4). now you loop through all connections and ...
... send the data to all the other movieclips
flash: if data (from 6) arrives, update the mc position accordingly
if the flash connection is terminated, remove it from the array
the problems:
- php is not really well suited for this
- you still have to learn about sockets. there are lots of tutorials on this topic, but most of them cover only single connections.
- depending on where you host it, your provider might not support long-running php-cli apps
No need to write your own server, use sockets or other complicated and time-consuming techniques.
Adobe has created the shared object class for exactly that purpose. You need to have a server running Flash Media Server (or equivalent) and use remote shared objects.