I have a cron that for the time being runs once every 20 minutes, but ultimately will run once a minute. This cron will process potentially hundreds of functions that grab an XML file remotely, and process it and perform its tasks. Problem is, due to speed of the remote sites, this script can sometimes take a while to run.
Is there a safe way to do this without [a] the script timing out, [b] overloading the server [c] overlapping and not completing its task for that minute before it runs again (would that error out?)
Unfortunately caching isnt an option as the data changes near real-time, and is from a variety of sources.
I think a slight design change would benefit this process quite a bit. Given that a remote server could time out, or a connection could be slow, you'll definitely run into concurrency issues if one slow job is still writing files when another one starts up.
I would break it into two separate scripts. Have one script that is only used for fetching the latest XML data, and another for processing it. The fetch script can take it's sweet time if it needs to, while the process script continually looks for the newest file available in order to process it.
This way they can operate independently, and the processing script can always work with the latest data, irregardless of how long either script takes to perform.
have a stack that you keep all the jobs on, have a handful of threads who's job it is to:
Pop a job off the stack
Check if you need to refresh the xml file (check for etags, expire headers, etc.)
grab the XML (this is the bit that could take the time hence spreading the load over threads) if need be, this should time out if it takes too long and raise the fact it did to someone as you might have a site down, dodgy rss generator or whatever.
then process it
This way you'll be able to grab lots of data each time.
It could be that you don't need to grab the file at all (would help if you could store the last etag for a file etc.)
One tip, don't expect any of them to be in a valid format. Suggest you have a look at Mark Pilgrims RSS RegExp reader which does a damn fine job of reading most RSS's
Addition: I would say hitting the same sites every minute is not really playing nice to the servers and creates alot of work for your server, do you really need to hit it that often?
You should make sure to read the <ttl> tag of the feeds you are grabbing to ensure you are not unnecessarily grabbing feeds before they change. <ttl> holds the update period. So if a feed has <ttl>60</ttl> then it should be only updated every 60 minutes.
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I'm building a PHP application which has a database containing approximately 140 URL's.
The goal is to download a copy of the contents of these web pages.
I've already written code which reads the URL's from my database then uses curl to grab a copy of the page. It then gets everything between <body> </body>, and writes it to a file. It also takes into account redirects, e.g. if I go to a URL and the response code is 302, it will follow the appropriate link. So far so good.
This all works ok for a number of URL's (maybe 20 or so) but then my script times out due to the max_execution_time being set to 30 seconds. I don't want to override or increase this, as I feel that's a poor solution.
I've thought of 2 work arounds but would like to know if these are a good/bad approach, or if there are better ways.
The first approach is to use a LIMIT on the database query such that it splits the task up into 20 rows at a time (i.e. run the script 7 separate times, if there were 140 rows). I understand from this approach it still needs to call the script, download.php, 7 separate times so would need to pass in the LIMIT figures.
The second is to have a script where I pass in the ID of each individual database record I want the URL for (e.g. download.php?id=2) and then do multiple Ajax requests to them (download.php?id=2, download.php?id=3, download.php?id=4 etc). Based on $_GET['id'] it could do a query to find the URL in the database etc. In theory I'd be doing 140 separate requests as it's a 1 request per URL set up.
I've read some other posts which have pointed to queueing systems, but these are beyond my knowledge. If this is the best way then is there a particular system which is worth taking a look at?
Any help would be appreciated.
Edit: There are 140 URL's at the moment, and this is likely to increase over time. So I'm looking for a solution that will scale without hitting any timeout limits.
I dont agree with your logic , if the script is running OK and it needs more time to finish, just give it more time it is not a poor solution.What you are suggesting makes things more complicated and will not scale well if your urls increase.
I would suggest moving your script to the command line where there is no time limit and not using the browser to execute it.
When you have an unknown list wich will take an unknown amount of time asynchronous calls are the way to go.
Split your script into a single page download (like you proposed, download.php?id=X).
From the "main" script get the list from the database, iterate over it and send an ajax call to the script for each one. As all the calls will be fired all at once, check for your bandwidth and CPU time. You could break it into "X active task" using the success callback.
You can either set the download.php file to return success data or to save it to a database with the id of the website and the result of the call. I recommend the later because you can then just leave the main script and grab the results at a later time.
You can't increase the time limit indefinitively and can't wait indefinitively time to complete the request, so you need a "fire and forget" and that's what asynchronous call does best.
As #apokryfos pointed out, depending on the timing of this sort of "backups" you could fit this into a task scheduler (like chron). If you call it "on demand", put it in a gui, if you call it "every x time" put a chron task pointing the main script, it will do the same.
What you are describing sounds like a job for the console. The browser is for the users to see, but your task is something that the programmer will run, so use the console. Or schedule the file to run with a cron-job or anything similar that is handled by the developer.
Execute all the requests simultaneously using stream_socket_client(). Save all the socket IDs in an array
Then loop through the array of IDs with stream_select() to read the responses.
It's almost like multi-tasking within PHP.
I am currently developing a PHP script that pulls XML data from a web page and so far it gets the XML data and stores it on a MySQL table. However, it only stores it when the PHP script is run, so I was wondering if there was a function or a tool (or if there are a few options let me know) that would run the script every x amount of seconds. Since its to do with currency changes, I need the XML pulled very frequently.
I've heard that a CRON will execute a script every set amount of time, but I've also heard they are really bad news for highly frequent use. Any other suggestions?
Also, this is for an app, so what I can also do is when a user requests the XML data, then it will get the data, then it will send it to the user however that will be saved for another post. If this way sounds better, let me know, since I'm not the greatest with web servers.
Cron jobs will be fine even if you need the task done frequently. The problem with cron jobs is that you can only do a task every minute (without getting too hacky) and you might get weird results if the query takes a long time (ex. is slower than one minute).
You should be totally fine though.
I am attempting to build a script that will log data that changes every 1 second. The initial thought was "Just run a php file that does a cURL every second from cron" -- but I have a very strong feeling that this isn't the right way to go about it.
Here are my specifications:
There are currently 10 sites I need to gather data from and log to a database -- this number will invariably increase over time, so the solution needs to be scalable. Each site has data that it spits out to a URL every second, but only keeps 10 lines on the page, and they can sometimes spit out up to 10 lines each time, so I need to pick up that data every second to ensure I get all the data.
As I will also be writing this data to my own DB, there's going to be I/O every second of every day for a considerably long time.
Barring magic, what is the most efficient way to achieve this?
it might help to know that the data that I am getting every second is very small, under 500bytes.
The most efficient way is to NOT use cron, but instead make an app that just always runs and keep curl handles open and repeats the request every second. This way, they will keep the connection almost forever and the repeated requests will be very fast.
However, if the target servers aren't yours or your friends, there's a likeliness that they will not appreciate your hammering on them.
I am working on my bachelor's project and I'm trying to figure out a simple dilemma.
It's a website of a football club. There is some information that will be fetched from the website of national football association (basically league table and matches history). I'm trying to decide the best way to store this fetched data. I'm thinking about two possibilities:
1) I will set up a cron job that will run let's say every hour. It will call a script that will fetch the league table and all other data from the website and store them in a flat file.
2) I will use Zend_Cache object to do the same, except the data will be stored in cached files. The cache will get updated about every hour as well.
Which is the better approach?
I think the answer can be found in why you want to cache the file. Is it to place minimal load on the external server by only updating the cache every so often, or is it to keep pages loading fast because the file takes long to download or process?
If it's only to respect the other server, and fetching/processing the page takes little noticable time to the end user, I'd just implement Zend_Cache. It's simple, you don't have to worry about one script downloading the page, then another script loading the downloaded data (plus the cron job).
If the cache is also needed because fetching/processing the page is significant, I'd still use Zend_Cache; however, I'd set the cache to expire every 2 hours, and setup a cron job (or something similar) to manually update the cache every hour. Sure, this adds back the complexity of two scripts (or at least adding a request flag to manually refresh the cache), but should the cron job fail, you're still fine.
Well if you choose 1 it somewhat adds complexity because you have to use cron as well (not that cron is overly complex) and then you have to test that the data file is complete before using it or deall with moving files from a temp location after they have downloaded and been parsed to the proper format.
If you use two it eliminates much of 1, except now on the request where the cache is dead you have to wait for the download/parse.
I would say 1 is the better option, but 2 is going to be easier to implement and less prone to error. That said its fairly trivial to implement things in the cron script to prevent the negatives i describe. So i would probably go with 1.
I have a personal web site that crawls and collects MP3s from my favorite music blogs for later listening...
The way it works is a CRON job runs a .php scrip once every minute that crawls the next blog in the DB. The results are put into the DB and then a second .php script crawls the collected links.
The scripts only crawl two levels down into the page so.. main page www.url.com and links on that page www.url.com/post1 www.url.com/post2
My problem is that as I start to get a larger collection of blogs. They are only scanned once ever 20 to 30 minutes and when I add a new blog to to script there is a backup in scanning the links as only one is processed every minute.
Due to how PHP works it seems I cannot just allow the scripts to process more than one or a limited amount of links due to script execution times. Memory limits. Timeouts etc.
Also I cannot run multiple instances of the same script as they will overwrite each other in the DB.
What is the best way I could speed this process up.
Is there a way I can have multiple scripts affecting the DB but write them so they do not overwrite each other but queue the results?
Is there some way to create threading in PHP so that a script can process links at its own pace?
Any ideas?
Thanks.
USE CURL MULTI!
Curl-mutli will let you process the pages in parallel.
http://us3.php.net/curl
Most of the time you are waiting on the websites, doing the db insertions and html parsing is orders of magnitude faster.
You create a list of the blogs you want to scrape,Send them out to curl multi. Wait and then serially process the results of all the calls. You can then do a second pass on the next level down
http://www.developertutorials.com/blog/php/parallel-web-scraping-in-php-curl-multi-functions-375/
pseudo code for running parallel scanners:
start_a_scan(){
//Start mysql transaction (needs InnoDB afaik)
BEGIN
//Get first entry that has timed out and is not being scanned by someone
//(And acquire an exclusive lock on affected rows)
$row = SELECT * FROM scan_targets WHERE being_scanned = false AND \
(scanned_at + 60) < (NOW()+0) ORDER BY scanned_at ASC \
LIMIT 1 FOR UPDATE
//let everyone know we're scanning this one, so they'll keep out
UPDATE scan_targets SET being_scanned = true WHERE id = $row['id']
//Commit transaction
COMMIT
//scan
scan_target($row['url'])
//update entry state to allow it to be scanned in the future again
UPDATE scan_targets SET being_scanned = false, \
scanned_at = NOW() WHERE id = $row['id']
}
You'd probably need a 'cleaner' that checks periodically if there's any aborted scans hanging around too, and reset their state so they can be scanned again.
And then you can have several scan processes running in parallel! Yey!
cheers!
EDIT: I forgot that you need to make the first SELECT with FOR UPDATE. Read more here
This surely isn't the answer to your question but if you're willing to learn python I recommend you look at Scrapy, an open source web crawler/scraper framework which should fill your needs. Again, it's not PHP but Python. It is how ever very distributable etc... I use it myself.
Due to how PHP works it seems I cannot just allow the scripts to process more than one or a limited amount of links due to script execution times. Memory limits. Timeouts etc.
Memory limit is only a problem, if your code leaks memory. You should fix that, rather than raising the memory limit. Script execution time is a security measure, which you can simply disable for your cli-scripts.
Also I cannot run multiple instances of the same script as they will overwrite each other in the DB.
You can construct your application in such a way that instances don't override each other. A typical way to do it would be to partition per site; Eg. start a separate script for each site you want to crawl.
CLI scripts are not limited by max execution times. Memory limits are not normally a problem unless you have large sets of data in memory at any one time. Timeouts should be handle gracefully by your application.
It should be possible to change your code so that you can run several instances at once - you would have to post the script for anyone to advise further though. As Peter says, you probably need to look at the design. Providing the code in a pastebin will help us to help you :)