so i have a couple of sites on paid shared hosting, my host limits the mail to 300 per hour.
One of my sites has more than 500 subscribers.
My question is how can i send the newsletter to all my subscribers? is there a way or a script that i can use to send the first 300 users the email and after an hour to send the rest...?
i've also considered making a gmail account to send the newsletters via smtp. Do you guys know the limit of free gmail smtp?
You shouldn't circumvent the restrictions placed by your host. I would suggest you pace your sends, and record your last-sent-id, picking up from there in your next hour. That, or you can place sufficiently sleep-time between sends to allow the entire thing to go out at a rate of about 300/hr.
Thank You for all your Reply guys... it really helped me find a solution for this inconvenience. I personally can't afford VPS hosting nor pay extra for an external for a mail server...
Considering Jonathan Solution and William's Comments i ended up developing a small php application based on XML to send different batch to 250 recipients each with a GAP of 65 minutes.
So the way it works, by default it only enables the first batch link to be clicked and send the newsletters to the first batch of users and recording the exact time this was sent in a XML file.
Then using the XML file info the next link registers that the batch before it was sent and starts a count down of 65 minutes with the time on the XML as reference.
So a Script will not be running for hours and the browser could be safely close since all the info required is in the XML file.
This may sound Simple but is a complex and efficient app that dynamically adapts to growth (new subscribers) as it queries the master Table on a database using the sql LIMIT clause to make the different batches. So it doesn't required maintenance.
If anyone is interested on the source code feel free to contact me # admin#thechozenfew.net
Google Mail does have limits, see:
Sending limits In an effort to fight
spam and prevent abuse, Google will
temporarily disable your account if
you send messages to more than 500
recipients or if you send a large
number of undeliverable messages. If
you use a POP or IMAP client
(Microsoft Outlook or Apple Mail,
e.g.), you may only send a message to
100 people at a time. Your account
should be re-enabled within 24 hours.
Source: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22839
To get around the problem, you could create a queue table in your db with a list of all the users you're sending the newsletter to. Then send e-mails out in bulks (500 example). Remove the e-mails from the queue table as they're sent out. You could use a cron (if on linux and host allows) to run a PHP script every hour that sends e-mails based off the queue.
I'd seek a place just to park your MX (not sure of Google's limits, but that could be a start). Its very common for mailing list managers to queue mails to fit within sending limits. I.e. a cron job queries a database, picks up 250 emails to send and sends them out.
The problem lies when you have 10,000 subscribers and need to send non-automated emails from the same MX. I.e., if your limit is consumed getting out a newsletter, what happens to your ability to reply to your own e-mail?
A lot of companies offer MX only hosting, I'd go with one of them and move the whole business of sending the list over there. Or, just get yourself a VPS (its going to be about the same monthly price).
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We have an internal message board. If a user posts a note then all other users that have access to the thread are sent an email alert. So if there are 20 users on a thread then you could see bursts of 100s of emails over only a couple minutes.
Currently the email alerts are sent with the PHP mail() function. One time we got some local relay alerts and I think our server IP was blacklisted for a short period of time. And I think these negative consequences happened because of an email alert burst that uses mail().
Is the solution simply to use anything other than mail(), or is there more to it? How can I reproduce/test the local relays and blacklisting so that I am sure the issue is solved?
If you're sending large amounts of email the best thing you can do is use a third party email provider. There are several that offer API/SMTP services and will not be blacklisted because they work on a reputation system. Most offer composer packages you can drop in and configure relatively quickly.
SendGrid / sendgrid-api - We use this to send around 2 million emails a month without issue.
Mailgun / mailgun-php
Mandrill / mandrill-api-php
Each have their pros and cons and some offer free emails to a certain limit.
If this isn't an option you should create a dedicated email server that has all the correct DKIM/SPF records that over time will become reputable over time however it'll still slow down when you're sending many emails as it'll be limited to 1 email at a time and if it encounters a slow connection it can take a while to complete. If email is important a third party provider is definitely the best way to go.
I am developing a mass-mailing system. At a time we send 2-4K emails, the email contacts are imported using PHPexcel library at same quantity of emails.
Last night when we are sending 2k emails we get the "500 internal server" error.
I think I should develop the new process for email handling and the contacts importing, am I right? If so, how should I do it? Is there any other way to overcome such 500 errors?
The PHP script is called by web browser and browser loads it for 5-10 minutes and then 500 error occurs. I am using the PHPMailer library for sending the mail.
Calling a long-running PHP script from a web browser is not really the same as running PHP in the background. That will lock up an Apache thread, and is likely to be subject to whatever timeouts PHP has configured. My guess is the timeout is being hit before the send has completed.
It would be better to do this on a cron. Here are some general pointers:
Every ten minutes, select the next unsent set of email addresses from your data store, maybe 100 of them.
Send an email to each one, logging to a database what you have done
Pause for a few seconds. This is helpful as it makes it less likely your mail will be directed to spam bins
If your script has been running for more than five minutes, exit (it will do the next set of email addresses on the next cron call)
Otherwise, loop back to the start
That will be much more reliable. For bonus points, write a web page to show you what emails are sent and which are still waiting. Also, you may wish to use a third-party mailing system like MailChimp, to increase your delivery reliability. Make sure all of your recipients really have opted into receiving email from you.
I've suggested the script should batch in groups of 100, run for five minutes, be called every ten minutes, and pause for a few seconds after each send -- but these are just examples. If you don't mind sending more slowly (e.g. overnight) then you can change these figures to suit. Sending more slowly is generally more reliable, so do this if you can.
I have a browser based gaming server, and it wasn't properly configured. In three days 420 people joined and all left because of mysql crashing and slow load time.
I upgraded the mysql and configured the server to run on low memory. Now It's super fast and crash proof. However all the players are already gone.
Good news is that I have a database full of 420 emails. I could tell them to come back and reward them.
Can anyone show me an example of a php-mysql mass email script?
you will have to iterate through a function that runs the same mailer against select all user emails...
i mean truth be told you will be lucky if an ISP doenst flag you down or if your hosting provider doesnt throttle you.
i would actually recommend doing this slower than faster. try doing one every minut so within a 6 hour cycle they all get rolled out.
you can use a pause in a script or run a persistant cron job.
Both of these solutions will keep you from getting blacklisted for a few pennies a month
Set up a mailchimp account for this few emails it should be free:
http://mailchimp.com/pricing/free/
import your mailing list into mailchimp and then split the users into multi campaigns and send mailers out to one of the campaigns track success and then adjust and start one of the other campaigns.
OR
use sendgrid's SMTP service.
http://sendgrid.com/pricing.html
using sendgrid you just configure your mailing script to connect via smtp (PHP Mailer can do this easy). $0.10 per thousand emails sent...
You shouldn't have trouble doing so on an offshore VPS those this are practically mail bombs.
Just use the mail() command in php.
I have an issue. I have situation where I need to send around 3000 emails per request using SMTP. However, only 30-40 reaches destination.
Do you have any idea what can be a problem and how to solve it. as server side script I am using PHP.
How the big e-mail service providers (Constant Contact, WhatCounts, etc.) do mass e-mails is to put the "campaign" in a queue and send it at a later time. They have dedicated, high-performance delivery software for looking through the queue for new campaigns to send and then send them out at rates exceeding 50,000 messages per minute. Anything you might do in PHP won't even compare.
If you are trying to send from your local computer, that won't work. DNSRBL lookups will identify your computer as being on a "DUN" (Dial-Up Network) and will block the message. Most PHP scripts also have a timeout of 30 seconds in a web server environment but running via cron a PHP script can run as long as it needs to.
You shouldn't send mass e-mails from your main e-mail server either. That's a nice, fast way to get on global blacklists so that you can't send regular e-mail to common hosts (e.g. Hotmail, GMail, etc). The big e-mail service providers have dedicated staff whose job it is to remove themselves from global blacklists. That's a full time job. You are better off paying for the service (don't forget to set up SPF records correctly if you do go this route).
Warnings and advice aside, to answer the question, use a cron job for your PHP script and put the e-mails to be sent out in a queue.
If your looking to inboxing as many emails as possible and you are not sending spam, and prefer to use your own smtp, check them out.
I am creating a system, where a list of thousands of emails will be sent periodically, I know that the mail() function in PHP is quite heavy, specially if calling it too many times simultaneously.
Roughly the way my system works , is that I create queue of emails in MySQL and send them in batches of 25 using mail(), removing from the table the top 25 sent. And I wait 2 seconds between each set of 25.
Is this too much effort for the server or I can push it a bit further?
Lets say 50 per second? Or there is a better way of sending many emails in less time without sacrificing Server performance.
I have a dedicated server without any mail() call limit.
There are other factors to consider besides performance, but the short answer is: there are better options. Amazon SES and MailChimp are the two I know about have heard positive feedback on.
Look at j08691's answer regarding the performance, but other issues with using mail() for this purpose include:
Scalability (you will hit a wall that no SMTP server can handle eventually, and you're already thinking about it)
Integrity - You are much more likely to get flagged as spammy when rolling your own mass mailer, especially using mail as it uses the local sendmail by design.
Cost/Benefit and ROI - the reliable mass-mailers get it right and for a competitive rate. At some point you are paying yourself less per hour to maintain your mail server when it crashes, getting off of black lists, writing the email layout by hand, general upkeep, etc etc than you would paying for the mass mailer service.
Overall, the big issue is that you have to do all the work yourself and you're likely to get flagged as SPAM for the benefit of not paying for a service that will be able to send hundreds of emails a second versus a hundred a minute when PHP isn't busy doing everything else it handles for your web app.
Personal anecdote (not an endorsement for SES, just mass-mailers) : We had a client that sent 100k+ emails per campaign, with 1 - 3 campaigns per day minimum. They started complaining that the clients were getting emails about "daily deals" 2 days late. It wasn't because the Mailer library was slow (even this app avoided using plain mail), it was that it couldn't be sure to send all of the emails for every campaign before the email was irrelevant. We switched them over to SES (with some optimizing on our end, but not much), and they could clear a campaign in under an hour.
From the PHP manual:
Note:
It is worth noting that the mail() function is not suitable for larger
volumes of email in a loop. This function opens and closes an SMTP
socket for each email, which is not very efficient.
For the sending of large amounts of email, see the » PEAR::Mail, and »
PEAR::Mail_Queue packages.
Try using PHPMailer. i used it to send about 100 mails everyday without any problem