i have create a form (so it's PHP and HTML hybrid-code). it has ability to send '$_POST'. And when i click it, it work perfectly on sending and displaying input.
But there's something happening when i click Ctrl+R in firefox for represhing the page. I got this confim dialog : "To display this page, Firefox must send information that will repeat any action (such as a search or order confirmation) that was performed earlier"
my question
what is it, (this confirm dialog ?)
what i have to do on my code so it able to suppress this dialog ?
You probably have created an HTML page that contains a <form>. The form is used to send data to the HTTP server (that is, the webserver that hosts your site).
The HTTP protocol defines different request types used to send data to the server and to retrieve data from the server. The most used are GET and POST. You must learn about all this if you want to be anything more than a very bad PHP programmer, which is unfortunately (or fortunately, if you are on the hacker side) very common.
Your problem is that Firefox has arrived on the page you are talking about after sending a POST request. If you reload the page, it has to send the same data again in the form of a POST. Due to the conventions on what a POST request should be used for (usually to modify data on a database), the browser asks the user if he is sure about what he wants to do.
There are mainly two options to circumvent this:
Change the form method to GET; or
Use a redirection after the POST.
To use the first method, you could simply add a method="get" parameter to your form tag:
<form action="senddata.php" method="get"> ... </form>
To use the second method, you simply redirect the user after the POST request, using something like
header("Location: blahblahblah")
The most used pattern is the POST-Redirect, that is, the second method I told you about. There are many security implications on using GET to change data on a database (if you are interested on that, and you should be, as every PHP programmer should, read about XSRF).
Submitting a form (sending a POST request) is commonly used to confirm an order on eCommerce sites. Therefore, submitting it twice would submit the order, twice. Therefore browsers, tend to ask for confirmation that a user wants to send the POST request again.
In order to prevent this, you need to make the refresh do a GET request instead of a POST request. To do this, simply redirect to the same page after processing the form.
header("Location: /path/to/self");
This will make it so when the user hits refresh, it will be sending a GET request instead of a POST request, and it won't prompt for confirmation.
To clairify, it goes like this:
Form gets sent via POST (User clicks on form)
Form gets processed
User gets redirected to the same page (via GET)
User now will be refreshing a GET request instead of a POST request.
I guess whenever your form (php, asps, static html etc) contains post information that may either form field infor or other, is sent to the server via firefox, it displays such a message before sending the data again to server. it serves as a security protection from Mozilla developers. I guess it can be disabled via about:config but it is not recommended to so.
Also it is a normal behaviour. It should be like this and have been like this for a fairly long time in firefox.
You may like to have a look here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=682835&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=Firefox+must+send
alternatively use GET instead of POST to send your data...
Regards
If the form was submitted successfully, answer with the status code 303:
header('Location: http://www.example.com/', TRUE, 303);
This forces the browser to use a GET request for the resulting page. A reload won’t send any POST data, and no pop up is shown.
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I am having a very hard time understanding the exact process of "post/redirect/get".
I have combed through this site and the web for several hours and cannot find anything other than "here's the concept".
How to understand the post/redirect/get pattern?
Wikipedia explains this so well!
The Problem
The Solution
As you may know from your research, POST-redirect-GET looks like this:
The client gets a page with a form.
The form POSTs to the server.
The server performs the action, and then redirects to another page.
The client follows the redirect.
For example, say we have this structure of the website:
/posts (shows a list of posts and a link to "add post")
/<id> (view a particular post)
/create (if requested with the GET method, returns a form posting to itself; if it's a POST request, creates the post and redirects to the /<id> endpoint)
/posts itself isn't really relevant to this particular pattern, so I'll leave it out.
/posts/<id> might be implemented like this:
Find the post with that ID in the database.
Render a template with the content of that post.
/posts/create might be implemented like this:
If the request is a GET request:
Show an empty form with the target set to itself and the method set to POST.
If the request is a POST request:
Validate the fields.
If there are invalid fields, show the form again with errors indicated.
Otherwise, if all fields are valid:
Add the post to the database.
Redirect to /posts/<id> (where <id> is returned from the call to the database)
I'll try explaining it. Maybe the different perspective does the trick for you.
With PRG the browser ends up making two requests. The first request is a POST request and is typically used to modify data. The server responds with a Location header in the response and no HTML in the body. This causes the browser to be redirected to a new URL. The browser then makes a GET request to the new URL which responds with HTML content which the browser renders.
I'll try to explain why PRG should be used. The GET method is never supposed to modify data. When a user clicks a link the browser or proxy server may return a cached response and not send the request to the server; this means the data wasn't modified when you wanted it to be modified. Also, a POST request shouldn't be used to return data because if the user wants to just get a fresh copy of the data they're forced to re-execute the request which will make the server modify the data again. This is why the browser will give you that vague dialog asking you if you are sure you want to re-send the request and possibly modify data a second time or send an e-mail a second time.
PRG is a combination of POST and GET that uses each for what they are intended to be used for.
Just so people can see a code example (this is using express):
app.post('/data', function(req, res) {
data = req.body; //do stuff with data
res.redirect('public/db.html');
});
So to clarify, it instantly refreshes the webpage and so on refresh of that webpage (e.g. if you updated an element on it) it won't repost the form data.
My code used to look like this:
app.post('/data', function(req, res) {
data = req.body;
res.sendFile('public/db.html');
});
So here the response is sending the html file at the /data address. So in the address bar, after pressing the submit button it would say for me: localhost:8080/data.
But this means that on refresh of that page, if you have just submitted the form, it will submit it again. And you don't want the same form submitted twice in your database. So redirecting it to the webpage (res.redirect) instead of sending the file (res.sendFile) , stops the resubmission of that form.
It is all a matter of concept, there is no much more to understand :
POST is for the client to send data to the server
GET is for the client to request data from the server
So, conceptually, there is no sense for the server to answer with a resource data on a POST request, that's why there is a redirection to the (usually) same resource that has been created/updated. So, if POST is successful, the server opiniates that the client would want to fetch the fresh data, thus informing it to make a GET on it.
I am doing my work in PHP.
I have 3 pages,
A is plain HTML and contains a search field.
B is .php and returns results of the search.
C is also php and allows user to update some details for the displayed results.
When I'm doing Refresh my B page or Go-Back from C to then I
get this message
"To display this page, Firefox must
send information that will repeat any
action (such as a search or order
confirmation) that was performed
earlier."
I saw "When i'm using "POST" method then I get this message, if I'm used GET then
I don't.
Any buddy Explain me ,why???
The GET method should be used to obtain information from a web page.
The POST method should be used to send information to a web page.
The reason it asks you to confirm whether or not to send information again is because it's not always the user's intention to repost a form if they press back. One example is at an online store, you would not want to repost a form to purchase a product twice, otherwise you could be billed for the product twice. This is theoretical of course since someone who makes an online store should ensure that an accidental purchase can't happen.
Also, if you use GET, then all information is appended to the URL of the PHP page. This is a potential security issue, especially if the form contents are private. For such forms, you should be using POST.
A wild guess,
POST is not written in the URL, so you need to resend it, while GET, when you click to return to B, the arguments are still in the URL so you dont need to resend.
Mozilla added this message to warn you from sending the information twice.
Like in the form of registration, you don't want to register twice.
Firefox developers added that warning for POST method. It will warn you for POST in case of back/forward also.
This is an added safeguard for users. Because, most shopping carts/banking portals use POST method for checkout/transaction confirmation (actually I have not seen or developed any web app to use get method for this purpose).
So, Firefox (and most other common browsers) warn you in this scenario (when your are sending POST request indirectly, i.e. using back/forward/refresh button). This prevents the user from multiple checkout.
Another reason to add this warning is, sometimes chekout is time consuming. So, when some time is passed after the original submission, some impatient users think that the browser/server has stopped working. So, they tend to press the refresh button. This warning gives them a good hint.
I think the point is that GET requests should be used to get information without changing anything on the server so if you reload the same information there's no issue. POST requests should be used to change data on the server so when you reload the page that may have undesirable effects.
Firefox should normally allow you to navigate back to your B page from your C page. However if your B page is not in the cache, possibly because it sends a Cache-control: no-store header, then you will get the POSTDATA warning.
On the other hand explicitly reloading page B will always generate a POSTDATA warning.
When you submit data in the POST method, it sends headers to the page you submit to. When you refresh the page or go back, your browser repeats your POST request and Firefox warns you of this.
I have a PHP script setup using Jquery $.post which would return a response or do an action within the targeted .php file within $.post.
Eg. My page has a form where you type in your Name. Once you hit the submit form button, $.post is called and sends the entered Name field value into "mywebsite.xyz/folder/ajaxscript.php"
If a user was to visit "mywebsite.xyz/folder/ajaxscript.php" directly and somehow POST the data to the script, the script would return a response / do an action, based on the submitted POST data.
The problem is, I don't want others to be able to periodically "call" an action or request a response from my website without using the website directly. Theoretically, right now you could determine what Name values my website allows without even visiting it, or you could call an action without going through the website, by simply visiting "mywebsite.xyz/folder/ajaxscript.php"
So, what measures can I take to prevent this from happening? So far my idea is to ensure that it is a $_POST and not a $_GET - so they cannot manually enter it into the browser, but they could still post data to the script...
Another measure is to apply a session key that expires, and is only valid for X amount of visits until they revisit the website. ~ Or, just have a daily "code" that changes and they'd need to grab this code from the website each day to keep their direct access to the script working (eg. I pass the daily "code" into each post request. I then check that code matches in the ajax php script.)
However, even with these meaures, they will STILL have access to the scripts so long as they know how to POST the data, and also get the new code each day. Also, having a daily code requirement will cause issues when visiting the site at midnight (12:00am) as the code will change and the script will break for someone who is on the website trying to call the script, with the invalid code being passed still.
I have attempted using .htaccess however using:
order allow,deny
deny from all
Prevents legitimate access, and I'd have to add an exception so the website's IP is allowed to access it.. which is a hassle to update I think. Although, if it's the only legitimate solution I guess I'll have to.
If I need to be more clear please let me know.
The problem you describe is similar to Cross-Site Request Forgery (CSRF or XSRF). To protect you against this you could put a cookie into the browser and have the cookie value sent in the post form too (by hidden field or just add it to $.post). On server side check both those fields, if they match the request probably came from your site.
However the problem you describe will be quite hard to protect against. Since you could easily make a script (or use Crul) to forge all kinds of requests and send to your server. I don't know how to "only allow a browser and nothing else".
Use the Session variable as you say plus...
As MyGGAN said use a value set in a cookie (CVAL1) before rendering the submit forms. If this cookie is available (JS Code Check will verify) then submit.
On the server side:
If this cookie value exists and the session variable exist then the HTTP Request came from your website.
Note: If the script (form) is to presented under another domain DO NOT allow the cookie value (CVAL1) to be set.
Do not allow HTTP Requests on the Server Side Scripts if extra Http Headers Are not available (like x-requested-with: jquery). JQuery sends a request with an X-* header to the server.
Read more on Croos-Site Request Forgery as MyGGAN suggests.
I am not really sure REMOTE_ADDR would work. Isnt that supposed to be the end users IP addr?
Firstly, you could make use of
$_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'], though not always trust-able.
The only bet that a valid post came from your page would be use a captcha.
try to use HTTP_SEC
// SECURITER
if ($_SERVER[HTTP_SEC_FETCH_SITE] != "same-origin")
die();
if ($_SERVER[HTTP_SEC_FETCH_MODE] != "cors")
die();
if ($_SERVER[HTTP_SEC_FETCH_DEST] != "empty")
die();
I need to cause a user's browser to post data using PHP to another site.
Example: You go to start.com/auto-login-hack (via GET)... then PHP sets the right headers etc. and causes the browser to, via POST, go to 3rdparty.com/login.php with login credentials.
I have done this is the past by having an HTML form and an onload script that submits the form to the destination.
I don't know enough about headers and etc. Is this possible? Can anyone link an example? My search skills just turned up how to use $_POST.
Thanks.
Yes, you can submit POST requests from PHP.
One of your choices is to use curl as shown in this SO question.
However, you cannot do redirects.
You cannot redirect to a POST; this is a limitation of HTTP. You'd have to use JavaScript to cause the browser to post a form.
I have an application that supplies long list of parameters to a web page, so I have to use POST instead of GET. The problem is that when page gets displayed and user clicks the Back button, Firefox shows up a warning:
To display this page, Firefox must send information that will repeat any action (such as a search or order confirmation) that was performed earlier.
Since application is built in such way that going Back is a quite common operation, this is really annoying to end users.
Basically, I would like to do it the way this page does:
http://www.pikanya.net/testcache/
Enter something, submit, and click Back button. No warning, it just goes back.
Googling I found out that this might be a bug in Firefox 3, but I'd like to somehow get this behavior even after they "fix" it.
I guess it could be doable with some HTTP headers, but which exactly?
See my golden rule of web programming here:
Stop data inserting into a database twice
It says: “Never ever respond with a body to a POST-request. Always do the work, and then respond with a Location: header to redirect to the updated page so that browser requests it with GET”
If browser ever asks user about re-POST, your web app is broken. User should not ever see this question.
One way round it is to redirect the POST to a page which redirects to a GET - see Post/Redirect/Get on wikipedia.
Say your POST is 4K of form data. Presumably your server does something with that data rather than just displaying it once and throwing it away, such as saving it in a database. Keep doing that, or if it's a huge search form create a temporary copy of it in a database that gets purged after a few days or on a LRU basis when a space limit is used. Now create a representation of the data which can be accessed using GET. If it's temporary, generate an ID for it and use that as the URL; if it's a permanent set of data it probably has an ID or something that can be used for the URL. At the worst case, an algorithm like tiny url uses can collapse a big URL to a much smaller one. Redirect the POST to GET the representation of the data.
As a historical note, this technique was established practice in 1995.
One way to avoid that warning/behavior is to do the POST via AJAX, then send the user to another page (or not) separately.
I have been using the Session variable to help in this situation. Here's the method I use that has been working great for me for years:
//If there's something in the POST, move it to the session and then redirect right back to where we are
if ($_POST) {
$_SESSION['POST']=$_POST;
redirect($_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"]);
}
//If there's something in the SESSION POST, move it back to the POST and clear the SESSION POST
if ($_SESSION['POST']) {
$_POST=$_SESSION['POST'];
unset($_SESSION['POST']);
}
Technically you don't even need to put it back into a variable called $_POST. But it helps me in keeping track of what data has come from where.
I have an application that supplies long list of parameters to a web page, so I have to use POST instead of GET. The problem is that when page gets displayed and user clicks the Back button, Firefox shows up a warning:
Your reasoning is wrong. If the request is without side effects, it should be GET. If it has side effects, it should be POST. The choice should not be based on the number of parameters you need to pass.
As another solution you may stop to use redirecting at all.
You may process and render the processing result at once with no POST confirmation alert. You should just manipulate the browser history object:
history.replaceState("", "", "/the/result/page")
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