Is it possible to make restful services with kohana 3 , i reviewed the source and found an abstract class Kohana_Controller_REST, how to use it ? If someone can post a snippet with routing as Example code, it will be very appreciated.
Also, the lack of documentation on KO3 is making me crazy, if someone knows a well documented, fast and proven PHP framework to use with an 100% javascript Frontend, just let me know, but i would like to stick with Kohana because of the powerful ORM lib.
Thanks.
This looks like the most promising module for 3.2 (current stable)
https://github.com/morgan/kohana-restify
I have been very happy using CodeIgniter REST Server, which is an extension to the CodeIgniter framework. One of the nice things about CI is the excellent documentation when compared to Kohana. Then again, Kohana is an "improved" fork of CI; for example, CI does not have an out-of-the-box ORM library.
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I have an project that is used by many users and it's written in Codeigniter. I'm very happy with my application but I'm getting lost with Codeigniter because of the functionality of the framework and my application is getting too big for Codeigniter (that is what I think).
I want to go from Codeigniter to Zend, but the application is too big to begin all over again because there is still more functionality to come.
I don't know if someone has experienced or tried it, but does anybody know if it is possible to integrate Codeigniter into Zend as an module and migrate in steps to the Zend Framework 2?
Sorry for my bad english by the way :-)
Having experience with small and medium-scale projects with both CodeIgniter (CI) and Zend Framework (ZF), I can tell you that using one framework over the other will not solve any problem you might be having.
If you are looking for the added functionality provided by the ZF components, such as a ready-made class for Date or the Form verification class, know that you can use ZF components in Code Igniter. You will need to create a special class in CI that will jumpstart the ZF class autoloader. From there you can simply include ZF classes and use them as if you were inside a ZF application.
See http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/02/21/using-zend-framework-with-codeigniter/ and http://fr.slideshare.net/samsonasik/codeigniter-using-third-party-components-zend-framework-components for more details.
"Integrate" means you want to put your app running on CodeIgniter withing ZendFramework. So basically you changed nothing and there's no much sense of doing so.
You perhaps could consider porting your app from CI to ZF, but that will require rewriting of your code. But I'd first try to find out what the bottleneck in your app really is and ensure that you will benefit from the switch
I am a newbie in PHP Frameworks and would like to share/discuss some experience with you guys. Getting straight to the point, what I understand till now (from a newby stand of point is this):
CodeIgniter + Doctrine + Twigg = Symfony:
Zend + Doctrine + Twigg = Symfony
Symfony 2, uses php5.3 (I realy like namespace stuff remind me .Net)
but it lucks of tutorials right now (only partial jobeet translation to ver2)
I enjoy CI community and noumerous tutorials, plus using Doctrine + Twigg I could achive the same with Symfony.
Zend is more enterprise with lots of tutorials, but more difficult to grasp than CI.
So the question is should I start with CI + Doctrine or learn directly Symfony2?
Am I correct with the above assumptions?
Start with CodeIgniter if you are new to frameworks. Both Symfony and ZF have a greater learning curve and if you're not familiar with some concepts you might get fustrated in the beginning with the more complex frameworks .
I would suggest you to go with Symfony 2 since it has got lots of good stuff built around it. Take a look at this article http://www.phparch.com/2010/02/symfony-2-benchmarks/.
Hope this link is very useful on learning Symfony 2. It's a tutorials based on days (21) teaching you how to create a calendar website. Good luck.
http://symfony.com/blog/do-you-know-jobeet
More:
http://symfony2easy.blogspot.com/
http://www.dobervich.com/2011/03/03/symfony2-blog-application-tutorial-part-i-project-setup/, http://www.dobervich.com/2011/03/05/symfony2-blog-application-tutorial-part-ii-the-data-model/, http://www.dobervich.com/2011/03/09/symfony2-blog-application-tutorial-part-iii-routing-controllers-and-templates/
it really adds up to what your requirements are.
Symfony is great, though my only bash on it is that it requires PHP 5.3, which is great, but make sure your host has 5.3 support. Also the issue of using CLI bugs me.
CodeIgniter 2 on the other hand requires 5.1.6, which is good for me as my host is still on 5.2; I also like how small CI was compared to Zend or Symfony. Now like you i like some of symfony's components and i use 2 of them (swift mailer & twig) on my CI install. doesnt mean you should just junk ci and go symfony. CI is built to be a stepping stone framework that you can build on. Symfony to me is a full-fledged framework with everything and the kitchen sink.
having said all that, not all frameworks are created equal. I use CI for one project and Kohana for another. Kohana offered me something i liked that CI didnt do and thats fine.
I think you should look at the different frameworks out there, some are full featured, some are bare-bones and allow you to grow with your needs.
You may quick start with Cygnite PHP Framework. Simple yet powerful tool to build your next project. It gives you exceptional performance. Check benchmark results:
Performance benchmark results
I'm working on a CMS for some of our projects, but would like to ease the work a bit by using a framework. This is what I need from a framework:
A framework that implements basic things like session management for me. Is there one?
A framework that supports REST. Is there one?
A framework that doesn't cause my CMS to break when the framework is upgraded. Is this something that I have to implement myself or can the framework help me.
A framework that's very object oriented. Am I right assuming this is a good thing?
The Zend Framework is allways a good choice.
http://framework.zend.com/
Or you could go with CakePHP if you want it a bit more Rails like (do it the framework wants you to do it and you have to configure/write less to achive the same)
Symfony is a nice framework that works well, in my experience, for custom CMS work. It's well integrated with the Doctrine ORM library, and the combo simplifies solutions to a lot of CMS problems. It also provides a nice set of feature for building REST interfaces.
Personally, I don't like how opinionated Symfony can be, so I use it sparingly (but often, for CMSy things where ActiveRecord doesn't seem to be an obstacle). For more complex problem domains, I prefer the Zend Framework, which sod recommends in his answer. It's very solid, provides a lot of great functionality, and it's easy to use as much or as little as you like. It provides no "model" layer, by design. That's a Good Thing if you're not buildng yet-another-cms/blog/etc
Look at symfony. For REST thing there are even generators: http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfDoctrineRestGeneratorPlugin and http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/ckWebServicePlugin/1_5_0
I'm embarking on a very big exercise to build a CMS in php. It's actually my attempt to learn PHP in a fun (and hardcore) way coming from a Java background. Java is all object oriented so oop is in my blood, but I'm finding that OOP hasn't made it yet to PHP. Most PHP is still being written today the old way without the new concepts.
I'm trying to find an example PHP CMS that's written as object oriented. I hear Xoops is. Any others you know of? or any OOP libraries in general that you know of that could help me in a CMS project.
I would suggest symfony framework as it is well documented and functional framework that helped building many web applications.
http://www.symfony-project.org/
PHP5 is pretty OOP. Look for CMSes and frameworks that only work on PHP5. For example, Kohana
Concrete5 is a pretty complex OOP based CMS. Might be a harsh start but I've learned a lot by working with it.
again, +1 for symfony, but this is a large project and getting to know symfony will consume most of your time, yet if you want to dive in, its documentation is really great.
since you are trying to build your own CMS, get started with easy to grasp frameworks and build upon them. Don't waste your time on everything that has been already done. I recommend you Codeigniter MVC Framework http://codeigniter.com and for CMS, PyroCMS http://pyrocms.com which is built upon codeigniter is cool. Codeigniter is really easy to get along, and documentation is very neat and clean.
Further, if you like to start with a simple php framework, here's what Tyrehall has done, http://github.com/tylerhall/simple-php-framework . This project can act as a base for your CMS
No one seems to have mentioned Kohana the PHP 5 only framework.
Kohana has a pretty active and very helpful community to back it up (#kohana on freenode in particular).
edit: Upon closer inspection I see someone has already mentioned Kohana.
what you will notice is that what is more important to most cms (and framework) developers is MVC pattern implementation. Most MVC implementations in php do in fact use oop practices (some stricter than others)
+1 for symfony, and another I'd like to recommend is Kohana (built on CodeIgniter)
Also have a look at their forums, as both already have a cms or 10 built using these frameworks.
Using these frameworks brings you about 60% there, as a lot of the rudimentary tasks are taken care of.
edit
also remebered this one: fatfree framework it's quite lightweight: http://fatfree.sourceforge.net/
Have a look at Phundament 3.
Phundament 3 is an application foundation built upon a set if independent Yii modules and extensions such as user, rights, yiiext, gtc, ckeditor, jquery-file-upload, p3widgets and p3media.
The combination of p3widgets and p3media provides basic content management system (CMS) features, like dynamic widget creation and file management.
Combined in ckeditor, p3media acts as a ckfinder plugin which gives you the full power of HTML and media files for content creation via p3widgets.
It comes with a very minimalistic setup which integrates perfectly into an Yii web application skeletion and installs with one single command.
as some folks suggested here, you should start with Codeigniter because it's really easy to dive in. Its documentation is very well structured and easy to read. But I think Codeigniter seems to be very old now.
What I really recommend to you is Laravel. There's another Framework you should look into, that's FuelPHP. But for me, Laravel has absolutely changed to way I'm writing my PHP code. It is the best framework I've ever seen in my life. It's so elegant that you will instantly fall in love with.
If Laravel suits you, I recommend you to follow this online course by Jeffrey Way # Tutsplus.com. You will love it!
Good luck :)
Have you seen CakePHP?
http://cakephp.org/
Its a MVC framework for PHP. Its pretty robust and can be used in a fully object oriented manner.
I'm trying to find a project that incorporates the "best practices" that are discussed and debated on a daily basis for almost all languages but I'm trying to focus on php5.
Is there a php5 open source project that I can comb through to see working examples of project that exemplifies Units Tests, Dependency Injection and other best practices
I'm basically researching for a new large project and wanted to see a shining example project in all it's glory instead of the snippets of code that are endlessly debated. Since this project will not inherit a whole bunch of legacy code I'm really trying to get things right from the start.
It seems like you are looking for something like Zend Framework!
Check out Kohana Framework too. In fact, most of the popular frameworks have great PHP code. I can not say the same for Wordpress, osCommerce, etc. Magento seems to be OK, maybe a little over engineered.
Here are the list of few libraries which are having good php standards
Laravel - PHP Framework with tons of goodies
Guzzle - CURL library
PHPUnit - PHP Testing Framework
Carbon - DateTime handling library
Faker - For generating fake data
Many more are there, the following link will help you more
https://github.com/uhub/awesome-php