I have the run-of-the-mill login-based PHPSESSID mechanism implemented for my web app. One aspect that bothers me is the simple scenario where a user orphans his session in browser A (on computer A), opens another in browser B (on computer B), orphans this to walk back to browser A and so forth. Possibly all this within the (reasonably lengthy) time span for which the PHPSESSID cookies are valid. If both sessions display the user static data, and the user is manipulating this, then the two browsers will not necessarily show data that is consistent with what's in the database.
My preferred response to this scenario is for the second login two invalidate the first. I can keep one PHPSESSID associated with the userID in the database. That's easy enough. Now the hard part: on the second login, how can I invalidate the PHPSESSID that's written into the database such that a subsequent access from the first sessions (with the now invalidated PHPSESSID) will fail?
(I cannot use session_destroy() because that wants to kill the second PHPSESSID, the one I actually want to keep. And I cannot use setCookie() for exactly the same reason.)
One idea I had involves a database access sequence number. Each new request returns the previous plus one. If out of sequence, session_destroy() the current enquirer. Slight inconvenience I see with this is that it requires an extra database fetch to recover the sequence number before each user access.
Is there any way of associating this sequence number with a userID somewhere inside the server's cache that doesn't involve any cookie transmissions?
Thanks.
I don't understand your question completely, but this is how I should do it.
If you store your session data (including SESSION_ID) in the database and you add a user_id to that table, you can delete all session_data of that user before adding the new session initiated on PC B (by that user) to the database. When the user tries to reload his/her session on PC A, the combination of his/her user_id and session_id is not present and you should log him/her out.
I see no problem in this.
On the second login you just write this second login session id in the database.
That makes previous one invalid.
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I have read many answers on stackoverflow, but none of them could answer my question.
Let's consider a case, where a teacher and the student use the same computer. The teacher uses it to upload marks and the student use the computer to browse the marks. Now, the cookies of the teacher are stored and accessible. The student can easily forge the cookies and present himself as a teacher to the system and create havoc.
What approach should I take to disable this? Is this only possible via sessions? Or there exists a possibility with cookies as well.
The main two suggestions I would have are:
Delete the entire session right before the user logs out or logs in. A new session should always be started when authorization level changes.
Only accept sessions ids you generate. By default PHP will accept and start a new session for any value of the session id you send it. If you receive a session id you haven't seen before, discard it and send the user a new one.
If it's not necessary to have the browser remeber the cookie between browser sessions (eg a login can be 'forgotten' if the browser window is closed), then you could NOT set the expiry date on the cookie which makes it memory-resident only.
When the user closes the web broswer, the cookie is forgotten (standard browser behaviour) so there's no link to the old session, and a new login must be provided. The old session becomes "orphaned" and (assuming you have a 'expire through inactivity' process) will be expired eventually.
If you need the browser to remember the last user even if the window was closed, then a short-but-appropriate timeout is needed - destroy the session making the cookie useless after x minutes/hours inactivity (whatever is appropriate).
I'm developing a site in PHP. When the user session starts I load all his db row in the $_SESSION var. When the user changes a db value I update the $_SESSION var too.
The problem starts when more than one session is active for the same user. Is there a way to update the data for all the sessions of the same user without overloading the database? Or, alternatively, is there a way to force php to use the same session file for all the session that belongs to the same user? Or I must simply query the db every time a session continues?
And another dilemma is: is it worth it? I mean, I do not know how much this mechanism could alleviate the server load, and I do not know if this mechanism is applicable to file-based sessions or I must use another session storing type.
This question is somewhat related to this other question on mine (even if the workaround for this is simply to delete all session files).
It really reaches the question why would you need to many data in a $_SESSION. And you should really take a time to decide which data is so often needed to be displayed.
In most of the cases you only need session identifier that keeps the user logged in, containing user_id, to take the needed data directly from the database.
Assuming the user can change its avatar, and you haven't go so many places to display this avatar, you don't need to store it in session, nor to SELECT it at the very same time. For instance, you can have a trigger page, which SELECTS the avatar by $_SESSION['user_id'] when he tries to send personal message to another user. Otherwise, you can put a cache (i.e. using memcached) where a query, which selects the user avatars should not be made more often than once an hour.
If user changes an email, it's the same. If somebody else tries to send him message, you trigger the SELECT query. Otherwise a cache is set.
So, let's say the user has changed his avatar, email, some other trivial info, then accessed your index page. In his session you load only the identifier. In the db the records are present, but they are not selected yet. So you have neither server load, because the session is light, nor database load, because no SELECT queries were sent.
No matter how many times the user tries to set his session (in this case logs second time), you have a present data in the db, and a session only with identifier. You can identify all his instances, but never use a data, which is not needed.
1 Well, I (don't, but) could do this with my session handler. I use databased SESSIONS with some extra information/columns like username and userid. That way I can exactly determine which session belongs to which user without fiddeling around with the serialized data.
http://php.net/manual/de/function.session-set-save-handler.php
2 But in your case it might be simpler to update your user table and then SELECT the user again to put the (new) data to $_SESSION['user']. (You will need some "user data was updated" info, to reload new data for all sessions).
3 Or you just avoid that a user can login more than once.
When a user logs into my site it creates 2 cookies, one with a session ID (that relates to the user ID on the backend) and a remember me cookie that lasts for 3 months.
The remember me cookie is constructed as:
userid:timeout:hash
Where the hash is a HMAC SHA256 hash of userid:timeout to prevent tampering.
If the session ID does not exist (user closes their browser and opens it again so the cookie is gone, or the session ID does not exist in memcached) it looks at the remember cookie and re-generates a new session cookie, providing it has not timed out and the hash is correct.
However I don't see the point of having a session cookie at all, as the session ID just points to a user ID in the backend. I can use the remember me cookie instead to retrieve the current user.
So I am thinking of scrapping the session cookie completely, and would be interested in hearing some thoughts on this. Does this approach sound relatively secure? Could I make it any better?
Thanks in advance!
Yes, it is indeed secure enough for most cases, but why including user specific data in the cookie when you can avoid it? Also, there's a small disadvantage with this:
What happens if an user manages to steal a cookie from another user, you'd have to change the whole way the cookies are generated or that user will always have access, therefore resetting everyone's cookies. Imagine now that it's your cookie that gets stolen...
This is my solution for that: create another row in the user table called 'userhash'. When an user logs in, you generate a random hash without taking any of his input, just random, and store it both in the table and in the cookie. Then you only have to store userhash:timeout in the cookie. You check that against the database to see if it exists, if it does, that's your user. When the user logs out, the cookie and the row in the database gets deleted. For obvious reasons, you'd have to check that the cookie exists before comparing (there will be many empty).
Note: This method would only allow one registered cookie at once, so no laptop + desktop. This is good, since stealing is made more difficult as it only lasts as long as the real user doesn't log in, and bad because it only allows 1 computer. But you see the idea and how you could use this method but having several computers logged in... facebook-like.
PD, it'd be nice if you said how secure your app must be actually...
PD2, in case you haven't think about it yet, there are other more serious security concerns (SSL to say one).
I've implemented a mysql-based session interface in php.
I just found out that if I log in to my account using browser A (e.g. Chrome), and then I log in to the same account in another browser B (e.g. IE), each browser is assigned 2 separate session ids. How can I make it such that when I log in again using browser B, I retain the active session of the previous browser A?
The issue at hand is that I'm storing certain information in the session and the data not being synchronised between the same users in different browsers and is wrecking havoc. :S
Is there a way to achieve this?
Thanks!
If you're storing the session in the database, add a mechanism whereby the userId is stored as part of your database's session record, creating what I like to call a "semantic session". When the user logs in, check to see if another session already exists; if so, use session_id() to fixate the new session to the old session's ID, which will join them (and should change your new session's ID for all subsequent requests). Be sure to only perform this action during the login step, or you might end up with freaky race conditions of two sessions trying to be each other and "swapping".
Don't store the data in session, store it in the database.
Sessions are normally identified by cookies, which are only visible in one browser. You could probably use Flash to share the session ID between browsers, but I cannot think of a use case. The point of the session is to store data which is bound to a single browsing session, and not to the user in general. You should use a database or some other form of server-side storage for generic user data.
I'm working a site where users could technically stay logged in forever, as long as they never close their browser (and therefore never get a new session key). Here's what I could see happening: a user leaves a browser open on computer A. The then use computer B, login and change their name which is stored in the session. They logout of B, but A is still logged in and still has their old name stored in the session. Therefore, their name won't be updated till the next time they logout manually or they close their browser and open it again and are logged in through the remember me function.
Name is a simple example, but in my case the subscription level of their account is stored in the session and can be changed.
How do you deal with this?
A few ideas that I have are:
After a period of 10 minutes or more, the session data get's reloaded. It might be exactly 10 minutes if the user is highly active as the function will get triggered right at the 10 minute point or it could be after 2 hours if the user leaves and comes back and then triggers the functionality.
Store as little information as possible in the session and load the rest from the DB on every page call. (I really don't like this idea.)
Use database sessions and use the same session on all the computers. I like this, but I could see it getting confusing when something like search criteria are stored in the session--the same criteria would show up on both browsers/comptuers.
For information, even such as the user's name or username/email address, store it in the session, but for other information that would heavily affect their abilities on the site, don't store it in the session and load when needed (attempt to only do it once per instance).
Are there other better methods?
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Another option: 5. Use database session and when an update is made load the user's other sessions (just unserialize), change the relevant information and save them back to the database.
I would go either with number 1 or number 4. If you store the time of the last update of the information, you could even ask on every request whether the date has been updated.
Don't store information likely to change in the session, if you're looking at scenarios like the one you outline. Just get over your dislike of loading user data with every page - it's by far the best idea.
I'm guessing you don't want to load the data from the database because you're concerned about performance issues somehow. Before you try out any of the other solutions, you might want to test how long it takes to actually load a users data from the database, then check that against your number of users - chances are you won't see any performance problems due to loading user profiles on every page.
Regards
I'd go with option 6: only store userid and session specific stuff (search criteria) in his session and put the rest into APC/xcache (memcached if you're using multiple servers).
this way you'll only have to go to the database the first time (and after the cache expires) and you can still share any data between users sessions.
Normally you should do 2), but you don't like it.
maybe you can use sessions stored in db.
when a user change his name, put into all sessions from that user the information "refresh userdata".
on the next request the userdata is reloaded again into the session and is cached there.
this can be done be reusing your loaduserdata function which called at login.
php session_set_save_handler() - also read comments
php session_decode() - to read the username from the session to store it additionally to the sessiondata. usefull for easily to find the users sessions for updating.
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don't forget:
when you are updating all the sessions while the page is generated (between session_start and session_write_close) you changes maybe lost.