I have just about got my head around how JavaScript frameworks like Backbone.js and Spine.js deals with the client-side state of a data model in regards to updating views etc. I am looking to build a web application with Backbone that syncs its model with a database. Most of the examples out there use Ruby, but I am currently much more comfortable writing PHP. I have experience with MySQL and MongoDB.
I am looking for a very basic, stripped down version, of a RESTful web application that uses Backbone and syncs with a database through PHP. I have found tutorials like this one and this one, however, even these are too complex for me to learn from.
It would be nice to have a very basic example. For example, a HTML form input, and a list. Enter into the input to add to the list. Of course, this data model will be synced to a database (preferably MySQL). Would anyone be able to provide me with the code for this example? I am comfortable with using a PHP framework like Slim also.
Once I understand how to sync created data to a database, I can then begin to grasp the rest (CRUD). I have seen very few tutorials out there on how to this at a basic level with PHP, so hopefully any support will benefit others too.
Have you seen this one from net.tuts? I think they will post a new tut soon with more details
Edit
And there are at least 2 similar questions here actually:
simple PHP code sample to serve backbone.js
Backbone.js How to use with PHP
I'm developing an iPhone APP and need to implement also an Web Service.
First of all I'm not a Developer and never made something big in PHP, Objective-C, xCode.
My PHP knowledge isn't also good. But let's start with my Environment.
iPhone APP (xCode 4.2, iOS5), PHP Web Service, MySQL DB
I was researching the WEB and most People tend more to REST than SOAP. I think i see also the advantages of REST (using of simple HTTP Verbs (get, post, delete etc...), but that's not the main point here...
I think I understand the main goal of the REST Architecture and tried to make a little concept with an URI and Verb Mapping. Here just a simple example of the mapping:
/location/{location_id}/product
/location/{location_id}/product/{product_id}
Both are GET operations who should get me ether a single product or all products of a location.
How would a simple PHP REST Web Server look like with these functions?
Another part should implement a User Authentication from the iPhone. Somehow i need to store the user session, right now I don't have any idea how to make that. The goald is that if only a user is logged in, he could review the product.
Now I've researched also the Web but couldn't find an easy step-by-step Tutorial.
Do you know any good Tutorials which will help me achieve my goal? :)
A lot of people prefer using PHP Frameworks like ZEND. This seems very interesting, but it seems like a big package with a lot of modules.
Does someone know exactly which Modules are needed to get my Web Service working?
This is quite a good tutorial, it uses the codeigniter framework which makes the learning curve a bit steeper but makes it a lot more powerful in the long run.
http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/working-with-restful-services-in-codeigniter-2/
If you want to build this the custom way it's actually very easy to do if you want to return information in the JSON format especially for php5 which is generally well supported amongst hosts these days.
Essentially the steps are like this:
Pass in product id via url and retrieve using GET i.e. service.php?product_id=10
Query database and return data for product id that was passed in
Store returned data in an array
Set header content-type to application/json
json_encode the result (json_encode)
That way when you call that url in a browser you will get a nice JSON formatted array result in a key:value pair manner. And as of iOS5 json parser comes with the framework (for earlier versions SBJson is a good framework to use (SB JSON))
HI all,
I am designing an client - server application system. The Server provide 2 features: upload and download images. The clients (maybe Iphone, Android, WP7, ...) use these features to provide to end-users.
At this time, I can design the server as web-pages (such as upload.php, download.php) as well as webservices. Both ways work fine for me.
My question is: which one I use webservices or web-pages technical for my designing? And why?
Thanks.
To be honest with you, using something like SOAP for this seems like a lot of unnecessary effort. You can very easily accomplish this using form encoded data and the right query string parameters without going through the trouble of building SOAP envelopes and writing all of the XML. Granted, the system I described is very close to a REST webservice, so I suppose it depends on what you mean by "webservice." Either way though, given relatively simple system you've outlined, I don't think something like SOAP will give you a very good return on your investment.
I'm starting to architect a quite complex web application. The implementation is probably going to be done in PHP, though if there are impressive reasons to choose a different environment I might be convinced.
I've looked at tools like Symfony and CakePHP. The problem is that it feels like they're relatively low level for a modern Web 2.0 application. They handle the basic things like MVC and scaffolding, but not the more advanced UI elements that I'm looking for. Here are some of my requirements:
Single page architecture. With minor exceptions, there should be no page refresh. All actions are done via ajax, the way it's done in gmail, and to a lesser extent in Facebook.
Ajax layout and widget handling. Not only the application doesn't refresh the page, but the developer can specify the layout and load various widgets into different parts of the page. This is somewhat like iGoogle, but should be better integrated.
Support both on the client side and server side for AJAX widgets. It should be trivial to display the result of a select statement in an AJAX table/array like http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/datatable/. This should also apply to other widgets including
Trees
Menus
Forms
Speaking of forms, there should be easy integration with client side validation
Signup/Authentication/Authorization. Including all the housekeeping things like forgot my password, CAPTCHAs, etc.
There's more, but I think I've given enough details so that you get an idea for what I'm looking for. Basically, I'd like to engineer a modern Web 2.0 app and skip writing, testing, debugging things that most web applications need to do. And yes, I know I can take YUI or jQuery and slap it on top of one of the regular platforms, but then I'd have to write all the glue. Now if there are modules that do this, that would be interesting.
So if you say, take Symfony + modules xyz + jQuery and there's your answer, I'd be happy to hear that.
Finally, in terms of priority, I'm looking for something that's scalable, reliable, well engineered more than something that's easy to learn and deploy.
Since you are looking for all things AJAX, why not try GWT? Its not PHP I agree, but it makes writing AJAX applications easy for developers.
I agree with #Iznogood. What your looking for is not actually a framework but a talent.You can make any framework as "igoogle-ish" as possible if you know what your doing.
I suggest look for a framework with a huge and active community like, CI, Cake and Jquery. Search/ask the community for the specific things you need. Plug it in and Presto!
But I'm afraid you'll have to write some of it.
If you don't mind using Java, there is ZK:
http://www.zkoss.org/
I'd prefer using this over GWT.
In php, you might want to consider Cjax http://cjax.sourceforge.net/.
It is MVC oriented, and has a very generic API, with full support for customization, including the development of plugins (There is a full Plugin API available, including documentation, Plugins can be built in PHP and JavaScript in combination -- see uploadify and validate plugins).
It can access all JavaScript functions, Objects and proprieties, and elements properties and functions from PHP server side, with one line of code.
In Cjax,
you can execute ajax actions, inside controllers (ajax requests) - without a line of JavaScript. this allows you to fully function without refreshing the page. It also allows you to access all Js objects from PHP. A good sample that reflects this is the "recursive ajax request" see that demo. The API can be used on page load, when the page first loads, and within every single ajax request.
Do take a look at the documentation and to the 20+ demos included, and no where you will see a single line of JavaScript. It allows you to manipulate elements, containers, request ajax, submit ajax forms, creates overlays, upload files through ajax, all from the server side. Take a glace at the API Table.
It has support for both, server side ajax, and client side, (see plugins JavaScript Documentation)
It plays nice with jQuery - the validation plugin in jquery is full executable in PHP without a line of JavaScript (see http://cjax.sourceforge.net/examples/plugin_validate.php without any custom line of Jquery inside the framework, it's all plugin's work). Ajax Responses from Jquery also get processed by this framework automatically, so using Jquery's Ajax function API wise, is the same as if you were using the Framework's Plugin's JavaScript Ajax Functions.
And you would just have to take your time learning more about it, because it has quite a few more tools that I am sure you'd find useful.
Currently there are two official releases, the generic release and
there is an official release for CodeIgnater of this framework (and it is the leading ajax option for codeignater) , and works great in conjunction other PHP Frameworks and without them.
Signup/Authentication/Authorization. Including all the housekeeping
things like forgot my password, CAPTCHAs, etc.
This is something that you can build within an ajax controller, the framework itself its meant to be a generic "AJAX" framework, so if you are looking for none ajax features, you will need to build them or integrate other PHP Framework with Cjax (such as Codeignater).
I do not know if this matches all of your criteria, or if you ever will find one. However, I like the Zend Framework myself.
As for the UI and AJAX portions - the server side technology matters little, and it's more about browser-side technology and interaction mechanisms, as well as DOM manipulation.
jQuery is my favorite for that. As for the PHP back-end, I tend to develop it with my own codebase that's grown with me over the years.
But all this takes a lot of practice, knowledge, education, research, reading, and posting questions on StackOverflow.com ;)
I would recommend symfony PHP framework since it has very good support for every feature you mentioned, and it can be easily integrated with Zend Framework - as of version 2.0 coming this year it would be integrated in the package. You can easily set symfony to handle AJAX requests so that it would be perfect transparent layer handling server side.
For me, if you look at THAT heavy AJAX, I would recommend searching for some good JavaScript framework - such as Ext.JS - that would handle all client side functionalities.
For the front-end part of your app, you might want to have a look at SproutCore ( http://www.sproutcore.com/ ).
Building a Web application with SproutCore feels more like configuring components than writing code.
There is no glue code.
On the backend all you have to do is accept and emit JSON.
Depends what sort of level you're looking at. If by 'framework' you mean something like Zend or Symphony, then to be honest all the big ones are about as good as each other. They all have strong points and weak points, but none will really meet your criteria.
But your question implies you're looking for something more than that kind of framework. Maybe you're looking for a full-blown CMS platform like Drupal, Joomla or Wordpress?
In that case, again, you need to consider your needs verses the capabilities and pitfalls of each system.
Drupal, for example, has masses of modules, is very powerful, and easy to write your own modules, but isn't object-oriented and doesn't really do MVC, so if that's your bag then you may find it hard to get on with. Wordpress is much easier to get going quickly but is less flexible once you start getting deeper into it.
But again, they all have strengths and weaknesses. If one was clearly the best, it would be an easy choice. But at the end of day perhaps it's better to have several good quality options to choose from.
Have a look at Ext JS, it is pretty good. If it is a commercial project you are doing it isn't free but not too expensive either. It also has a GWT version if you prefer that.
This is only for the front end but it is not too complicated to use any backend that can emit json.
CakePHP is pretty good
Here's my background:
Decent experience with PHP/MySql.
Beginner's experience with OOP
Why I want to learn Python Django?
I gave in, based on many searches on SO and reading over some of the answers, Python is a great, clean, and structured language to learn. And with the framework Django, it's easier to write codes that are shorter than with PHP
Questions
Can i do everything in Django as in PHP?
Is Django a "big" hit in web development as PHP? I know Python is a
great general-purpose language but I'm
focused on web development and would
like to know how Django ranks in terms
of web development.
With PHP, PHP and Mysql are VERY closely related, is there a close relation between Django and Mysql?
In PHP, you can easily switch between HTML, CSS, PHP all in one script. Does Python offer this type of ease between other languages? Or how do I incorporate HTML, CSS, javascript along with Python?
Can i do everything in Django as in PHP?
Always
Is Django a "big" hit in web development as PHP?
Only time will tell.
With PHP, PHP and Mysql are VERY closely related, is there a close relation between Django and Mysql?
Django supports several RDBMS interfaces. MySQL is popular, so is SQLite and Postgres.
In PHP, you can easily switch between HTML, CSS, PHP all in one script.
That doesn't really apply at all to Django.
Or how do I incorporate HTML, CSS, javascript along with Python?
Actually do the Django tutorial. You'll see how the presentation (via HTML created by templates) and the processing (via Python view functions) fit together. It's not like PHP.
Yes.
It's very hard to tell exactly how popular it is.
MySQL is officially supported.
Yes, but probably not in the way you think. Please read this and also follow the tutorial that S.Lott mentions.
No. You can only do a LOT better.
Awesome, popular. Supported by best hosters like Mediatemple.
No. You can just change 'mysql' to 'postgresql' or 'sqlite' in your settings.py.
NO! Python would never give you the right to mix up everything in one file and make the shittest shit in the world. Templates, static server.
Django is a Model-Template-View framework, great for any applications, from small to huge. PHP works fine only with small apps. Yeah, PHP == Personal Home Page, lol.
P.S. Also you can minify your CSS and JS. And compile to one single file (one js, one css). All with django-assets. And yeah, there's a lot more reusable Django apps (for registration, twi/facebook/openid auth, oembed, other stuff). Just search Bitbucket and Github for "django". No need to reinvent a bicycle, like you do with PHP.
In PHP, you can easily switch between
HTML, CSS, PHP all in one script. Does
Python offer this type of ease between
other languages? Or how do I
incorporate HTML, CSS, javascript
along with Python?
That's one of the reasons why PHP is so easy to learn. And it's also exactly why so many (if not most) PHP projects are such a complete mess. It's what leads to the "spaghetti code" syndrome.
Django is all about complete separation of page design from view logic from URL routing (in fact this is true of most modern MVC or MTV frameworks). So templates are in one place, data structure definitions are in another, and the logic that defines their interaction is in another. It takes a bit of getting used to, but has a huge payoff.
Another thing that takes getting used to for people coming from PHP is that fact that file and foldernames no longer have a direct bearing on the URL. For example in PHP, you might have foldername/filename.php and the URL would be http://example.com/foldername/filename.php. It doesn't work like that in Django. Instead, you define a URL structure in a file (urls.py). In that "map" you define which piece of logic ("view code") will be called when a matching URL is intercepted. Everything is abstracted like that. The result is a much cleaner, more logical site layout and logic.