I found a few Zend sample applications but all of them use Zend_DbTable. Does anyone know of a full Zend example application built with Propel to learn from?
I don't know of any complete applications, though there are quite a few articles on how to set it up. Just make sure you initialize Propel in your bootstrap, and then use your Propel classes as per usual. There's nothing special about it...
How to Zend Framework with Propel ORM could be handy.
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I am interested in learning Zend Framework 2.x, and I've noted that there are many good books written about ZF 1.8, 1.9, etc... however, I haven't come across any that explicitly states it is for ZF2 (except for one, and it was written in German).
In order to learn ZF, I could sit an learn it through the documentation... however, that sounds rather unsavory, despite the fact that it contains the latest information and arguably is the "best" source. I would like to endeavor in the more abundant sources on versions 1.8 or 1.9 as I learn this framework.
How much overlap is there between 1.8/1.9 to 2.x? I know 2.x uses namespaces and many new PHP 5.3.x features, but are there really that many changes between the implementation of these versions that I would be wasting my time trying to learn anything less than 2.0?
I'm aware that even if there is a large amount of compatibility, I would still have to come back and fill in a few "knowledge gaps". I'm just looking for a quick run down of the framework overall.
Thank you for your time.
Zend Framework 2 is very different from ZF1. It's core has been rewritten and the MVC structure has changed quite a bit.
The blog post announcing ZF2 goes into some detail on what has changed and why so I would recommend reading that. If you haven't used ZF1 extensively, you won't know some of the components they are talking about but that's okay. But as it states, ZF2 will look alien to those familiar with ZF1. Part of this is the new MVC structure and there are many new core components not available before including the ModuleManager, ServiceManager, and EventManager which provide better ways of accomplishing tasks that were more abstract to accomplish in ZF1.
Unless you plan on working with ZF1 projects, there isn't much sense in learning it at this point; I'd jump right into learning ZF2 at this point. If you were to learn ZF2 now and come across a ZF1 application down the road, there will be things you run into you aren't familiar with but largely you should be able to understand what's going on and get in and edit the application and learn what you need to know as you go.
Since the libraries provided by ZF1 and ZF2 are able to be used standalone, it would be possible to use some ZF2 classes in ZF1 as long as those classes aren't too tightly coupled to other classes in ZF2. For example, you can use Zend\Crypt from ZF2 standalone quite easily, but trying to use Zend\Form might be a different story since its tied to views, validators, filters and other classes.
As for learning ZF2, like you said there aren't many books around yet since its so new, but there are a lot of resources available for learning it aside from the reference guide.
I'd recommend looking at Getting Started with ZF2, the ZF2 Skeleton App, as well as the Zend Webinars where you can already find some great ZF2 tutorials including a presentation called Getting Started with ZF2 presented by The Zend Framework project lead Matthew Weier O'Phinney. There's also an upcoming webinar about MVC that's worth registering for (its free).
Hope that answers your question!
I am a newbie in PHP Frameworks and would like to share/discuss some experience with you guys. Getting straight to the point, what I understand till now (from a newby stand of point is this):
CodeIgniter + Doctrine + Twigg = Symfony:
Zend + Doctrine + Twigg = Symfony
Symfony 2, uses php5.3 (I realy like namespace stuff remind me .Net)
but it lucks of tutorials right now (only partial jobeet translation to ver2)
I enjoy CI community and noumerous tutorials, plus using Doctrine + Twigg I could achive the same with Symfony.
Zend is more enterprise with lots of tutorials, but more difficult to grasp than CI.
So the question is should I start with CI + Doctrine or learn directly Symfony2?
Am I correct with the above assumptions?
Start with CodeIgniter if you are new to frameworks. Both Symfony and ZF have a greater learning curve and if you're not familiar with some concepts you might get fustrated in the beginning with the more complex frameworks .
I would suggest you to go with Symfony 2 since it has got lots of good stuff built around it. Take a look at this article http://www.phparch.com/2010/02/symfony-2-benchmarks/.
Hope this link is very useful on learning Symfony 2. It's a tutorials based on days (21) teaching you how to create a calendar website. Good luck.
http://symfony.com/blog/do-you-know-jobeet
More:
http://symfony2easy.blogspot.com/
http://www.dobervich.com/2011/03/03/symfony2-blog-application-tutorial-part-i-project-setup/, http://www.dobervich.com/2011/03/05/symfony2-blog-application-tutorial-part-ii-the-data-model/, http://www.dobervich.com/2011/03/09/symfony2-blog-application-tutorial-part-iii-routing-controllers-and-templates/
it really adds up to what your requirements are.
Symfony is great, though my only bash on it is that it requires PHP 5.3, which is great, but make sure your host has 5.3 support. Also the issue of using CLI bugs me.
CodeIgniter 2 on the other hand requires 5.1.6, which is good for me as my host is still on 5.2; I also like how small CI was compared to Zend or Symfony. Now like you i like some of symfony's components and i use 2 of them (swift mailer & twig) on my CI install. doesnt mean you should just junk ci and go symfony. CI is built to be a stepping stone framework that you can build on. Symfony to me is a full-fledged framework with everything and the kitchen sink.
having said all that, not all frameworks are created equal. I use CI for one project and Kohana for another. Kohana offered me something i liked that CI didnt do and thats fine.
I think you should look at the different frameworks out there, some are full featured, some are bare-bones and allow you to grow with your needs.
You may quick start with Cygnite PHP Framework. Simple yet powerful tool to build your next project. It gives you exceptional performance. Check benchmark results:
Performance benchmark results
I'm using Zend Framework and I feel that I need a good ORM to work with. I don't know much of Zend Framework, I just know how to do the basics. I expect to work together with both Doctrine and Zend Framework
But to sget started, I'm going to try a simple Doctrine project (no ZF) to get used to the application. Then I'll try to integrate it in ZF
Which version of Doctrine do I start learning? Does Doctrine have a good integration with ZF?
Besides,
Is there any recent site for Doctrine learning? I just can't find the sandbox version to follow the Doctrine documentation. If anyone knows of any tutorial on how to get started with doctrine only first, please let me know
I've done projects with zend framework and doctrine. They play pretty nice together.
I followed this tutorial and it worked well.
But honestly I don't use doctrine on anything but the largest sites. I've switched over to RedBean. Zero configuration autodiscovery, and the ability to freeze data models when you are done for maximum performance.
You should really try it out, it is so simple its stupid. It is really one of the best ORM's ive ever used. EVER. Try it.
I am personally using Doctrine 1.2
and i followed the Zendcasts.com "more than 5 casts about doctrine" & same Byron's tuts
both of them is good
Update :
1- http://www.zendcasts.com/deep-integration-between-zend-and-doctrine-1-2/2010/01/ has the sample code
2- http://www.doctrine-project.org/projects/orm/1.2/download/1.2.3 has the doctrine framework if you need to download it alone
I've found Doctrine2 reasonable stable, although it's still in beta. It seems most of the other PHP 'ORM' libraries (Doctrine 1.2 included) are Active Record, while Doctrine2 is a Data Mapper. In my opinion, you can put together a relatively simple Active Record using Zend's native Db_Table, so that makes Doctrine 1.2 less appealing (at least to me).
I've used this answer about integrating Doctrine2 and Zend Framework.
I agree with Byron, and have only used Doctrine2 on select projects.
[As an aside, I've noticed RedBean in the past, and have wanted to try it - from what I've seen it's certainly worth taking a look.]
Doctrine 2 is in beta and requires PHP5.3 as it fully utilizes Namespaces. If you cannot use PHP5.3 in your project, you cannot use Doctrine 2.
Apart from that, there has been a number of architectural changes in Doctrine 2 that make it much more attractive than Doctrine < 2, mainly
using DataMapper instead of ActiveRecord
promotes DI over static calls
faster and less memory-intensive
revolves around Entities and DDD
uses "Annotations"
See
http://architects.dzone.com/articles/doctrine-1-doctrine-2
http://www.slideshare.net/jwage/doctrine-2-not-the-same-old-php-orm
For class, I would like a to use PHP MVC framework very similar to ASP.NET MVC with NHibernate. I am very comfortable with ASP.NET MVC. I need to use PHP and MySQL. I would not like to be concerned with the SQL to save me time. I would like to just design my PHP model classes and controllers without all of that data-access logic behind it that I would have to write.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
Also, I'm very limited on what I can install on the server. For instance, I can't upgrade PHP or run other installers. I want something I can drop in.
I prefer Zend Framework MVC components combined with Doctrine if really want great power. but for something simple try CaKePHP as it has its own simple ORM implementation, and the framework is built to be the php version of Ruby on Rails.
My personnal preference for "MVC Framework" would probably be Zend Framework -- though it's not the only possible choice (I'm thinking about symfony too, for instance).
About the "not writing SQL" part, I would use Doctrine, which is a great ORM Framework.
It's actually the default ORM Framework of symfony, and can be used with Zend Framework quite easily.
I suggest Symfony. It uses Doctrine (which is inspired partly by Hibernate) too, but it is integrated deeper with Symfony than Zend Framework. Symfony provides a number of helper classes which really help automate things with Doctrine (my favorite is sfDoctrinePager). Zend Framework is a good choice, but I recommend looking at Symfony first. I would avoid the other PHP MVC frameworks as they tend to be less flexible, and if you're coming from another language you may have your own preferences on how to attack a certain problem - Symfony and ZF will both give you leeway in this sense.
For those that have begun playing around with zend expressive, does it require knowledge of zend framework 2? meaning do I have to learn/know zf2 in order to use Expressive? or did they make enough changes where learning zf2 would be pointless/confusing?
along those same lines, other than the zend-expressive.readthedocs.org page, can anyone recommend some good tutorials/walk-throughs to get started ?
I would say that the knowledge of Zend Framework 2 is not required to work with Zend Expressive. Certainly, the two share some components (Zend.Mvc for the routing and Zend.ServiceManager for DI, if you choose them in Expressive) and the logic of some things is similar, so a knowledge of ZF2 would not go wasted. But if you don't know it, you don't need to learn it before starting to use Expressive.
Regarding some useful resources on Expressive, here are some:
http://www.sitepoint.com/build-nasa-photo-gallery-zend-expressive/
http://www.masterzendframework.com/zend-expressive-introduction/
https://github.com/RalfEggert/zend-expressive-tutorial
https://www.briefs.fm/zend-framework-bites
You don't need any zend framework experience to start with zend expressive. But it gives you a head start when using zend components in your project.
Some more links to get you started:
Official docs: https://zendframework.github.io/zend-expressive/
Project examples: https://zendframework.github.io/zend-expressive/reference/expressive-projects/
If you already know Zend Framework, namely things like,
PhpRenderer
ServiceManager
ViewModel
it will help you, because you can choose those ZF components to go into your Expressive configuration and get a good head start, instead of taking baby steps learning what those are.
But, if you do not already know those, there is no reason to learn Zend Framework and I could argue that learning Zend Framework, in order to use Expressive, will be detrimental.
That is, because, Expressive, builds on new ideas of a microframework, and using pipelines of Middlewares, rather than a pre-determined pre-set pipeline of Zend Framework's zend-mvc module, and Middlewares and zend-mvc are quite different. If you are new to Expressive, I'd look into each concept separately and pick the components you wish to use. The concepts are
Routing
Dependency Injection Container
Templating
You can also pick your own Error handling module. Also Expressive gives you standard compliancy, such as PSR-7 and PSR-15 when it becomes available.
If you already know Zend Framework, namely things like,
PhpRenderer
ServiceManager
ViewModel
it will help you, because you can choose those ZF components to go into your Expressive configuration and get a good head start, instead of taking baby steps learning what those are.
But, if you do not already know those, there is no reason to learn Zend Framework and I could argue that learning Zend Framework, in order to use Expressive, could be detrimental.
That is, because, Expressive, builds on new ideas of a microframework, rather than a pre-determined pipeline of Zend Framework, and those are quite different. If you are new to Expressive, I'd look into each concept separately and pick the components you wish to use. The concepts are
Routing
Dependency Injection Container
Templating
You can also pick your own Error handling module. Also Expressive gives you standard compliancy, such as PSR-7 and PSR-15 when it becomes available.
It can be good to know Zend Framework (or similar framework) because working with those frameworks gives you an understanding of how those components are built, and how they connect. However, Expressive Skeleton gives you a pretty good idea and a good headstart on very good groundwork concepts and modern web development (routing, templates, error handling, DI container). Newer concepts in Expressive are Middlewares and piping them together. Those were not present in Zend Framework at first, but now they made it in there as well.