i am on the way to load balance some drupal site, 2 servers running the exact same site, DB running on a different server that both access, and another server where the load balancer will run.
I am following this guide and i was wondering about that sticky session part.. Since i have all the shared static data stored in a NAS accessed by both drupal servers, why not defining in the PHP.ini of both drupal servers the session.save_path to some location on that NAS instead of using sticky sessions? would that work?
what are the pros and cons of that?
thanks!
Now, when you want to access session on either server, you have to make a network request to the NAS as opposed to maintaining session in memory on either Drupal server. Basically, it's slow.
A faster approach is to remove Session entirely from your application and enjoy the speed benefits as well as administration benefits.
Alternatively, you can go with the sticky sessions, but this makes administration of your server farm more difficult.
The almost canonical answer to this is memcached. It's the way to store session if you have more than one webfrontend. Once you have it, you can begin exploring it for speed by using it for cache.
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I will like to know how memcached manage cache for php sessions i mean. I would like to design a php app that scale out and in each http-PHP server include a memcached layer for (db,app cache and session caching), but if memcached dont replicate de data when a user come to webserver1 dont see the same session in webserver2.
memcached1 and memcached2 need to be replicated to handle php sessions
thanks in advance.
regards.
While I agree there is no question here we could try to help the OP understand how memcache works.
When you use memcache which is an in-memory cache how you set it up is determined upon your current infrastructure.
For instance if you only have 1 web server you could install memcache on that same machine along with the database layer being on that machine as well. This works for increasing performance of the site because the site can get data from memcache (in memory) rather than from the database (on disk, and slower to read). Using it in this manner is good but as your site requires better performance or scalability you would probably start up a cluster of web servers behind a load balancer.
This is when things can get a bit tricky. You have all these machines and you are thinking that you need to have memcache on every machine so how do we replicate these instances? The simple answer is you don't. If you have multiple web servers the best method is to put memcache on it's own server (or cluster behind a load balancer), this way every web server is hitting the same IP address for the memcache server(s).
You do not need to worry about keeping anything in sync because the way memcache works is it creates a hash that specifies which server the key has been assigned to (when you have a cluster of memcache servers).
Based on this question it would appear that you would need to do one of the following:
1.) Read up on system architecture
2.) Hire someone to architect your systems layer.
My best suggestion would be to use a single server for your memcache instance and set the web servers to use that for memcache rather than trying to run memcache on each of the web servers.
Joseph.
I undertand your point, I already test the architecture with a separate memcached server (and redis too). My intentions is to "pack" the application server in a unit (docker) and the measure the load parameters to deploy a new instance, to scale out the infraestructure.
I found this.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-share-php-sessions-on-multiple-memcached-servers-on-ubuntu-14-04
thanks for your reply!
regards.
Is there a way to store/manage PHP sessions in a similar way that the IIS (Session State Service) ?
I want to have multiple front end web servers for an multi domain e-commerce platform and manage the sessions centrally. The idea being that is a server goes down users with cart contents will not have to start a new session when they are shifted to a another web server.
I know cookies and URL parameters could do it to a point but that's not answering the question.
You can register a SessionHandlerInterface which is backed by a shared database (e.g. MySQL Cluster).
For anyone looking for this because they are moving to Amazon Web Services, there are two options/alternatives:
Use the DynamoDB session handler from the AWS SDK for PHP. This essentially has the same effect as session replication. However, there are monetary costs from DynamoDB, especially if you need locking.
Use session stickiness in the load balancer. This is simpler to set up, and free, but is probably not quite as scalable, as requests from old sessions can't just be sent on to newly started servers.
The most scalable option is of course to get rid of server-side sessions, but that is not always easy without huge changes in backends and frontends, and in some cases not even desirable because of other considerations.
All,
I have a PHP5 web application written with Zend Framework and MVC. This application is installed on 2 servers with the same setup. Server X has php5/MySql/Apache and Server Y also have the same. We don't have a common DB server between both the servers.
My application works when accessed individually via https on Server X and Server Y. But when we turn on load balancing and have both servers up, the sessions get lost.
How can I make sure my sessions persist across servers? Should I maintain my db on a third server and write sessions to it? IF so, what's the easiest and most secure way to do it?
Thanks
memcached is a popular way to solve this problem. You just need to get it up and running (easy) and update your php.ini file to tell it to use memcached as the session storage.
In php.ini you would modify:
session.save_handler = memcache
session.save_path = ""
For the general idea: PHP Sessions in Memcached.
There are any number of tutorials on setting up the Zend session handler to work with memcached. Take your pick.
Should I maintain my db on a third
server and write sessions to it?
Yes, one way to handle it is to have a 3rd machine running the database that both webservers use for the application. I've done that for several projects in the past and its worked well. The question with that approach is... is the bottleneck at the webservers or the database. If its at the database, you wont see much improvement by throwing load balancing of the web servers into the mix. You may need to instead think of mirroring schemes for the database.
Another option is to use the sticky sessions feature on your load balancer. What this will do is keep users on certain servers. So when user 1 comes to the site, they will be directed to server X. Every subsequent request will also be directed to server X. This allows you to not worry about persisting sessions between servers, as each user will continue to be directed to the server they have their session on.
The one downside of this is that when you take a web server out of the pool, half the users with a session will be logged out. So the effectiveness of this solution depends on how often you take servers out of the pool.
We are developing a web site in PHP, and we have to use sessions. The site will be published in a server cluster. How can we make that work?
Thanks.
Yes this is possible, you need to store your sessions in a central location like a database though. This is pretty simple and just requires you to make some changes to session_set_save_handler - there's a good example of the process you need to follow here
I would use memcache to store your sessions. It will be much faster than storing them in a database or disk.
Database storage is good but you will need more databases when your site becomes very high traffic. Sessions on disk will also cause a lot of IO issues when your site gets a lot of traffic. Memcache on the other hand scales much better than a DB and files.
I personally use memecache and the sites i work on get millions of hits a day. I have never had any issues with storing sessions in memcache.
If you've got multiple PHP boxes, you'll want a central session store.
Your best choices are probably database (that link from seengee's answer is a good explanation) or a dedicated memcache box.
A shared NFS mount for the session directory would be an option, though I've always found nfs performance a bit slow. Alternatives are to write your own session handler using memcache or database for the sessions.
An alternative option is to load balance your web servers using sticky sessions, which will ensure that requests from the same client always go to the same server during the course of the session.
OK, so I've got this totally rare an unique scenario of a load balanced PHP website. The bummer is - it didn't used to be load balanced. Now we're starting to get issues...
Currently the only issue is with PHP sessions. Naturally nobody thought of this issue at first so the PHP session configuration was left at its defaults. Thus both servers have their own little stash of session files, and woe is the user who gets the next request thrown to the other server, because that doesn't have the session he created on the first one.
Now, I've been reading PHP manual on how to solve this situation. There I found the nice function of session_set_save_handler(). (And, coincidentally, this topic on SO) Neat. Except I'll have to call this function in all the pages of the website. And developers of future pages would have to remember to call it all the time as well. Feels kinda clumsy, not to mention probably violating a dozen best coding practices. It would be much nicer if I could just flip some global configuration option and Voilà - the sessions all get magically stored in a DB or a memory cache or something.
Any ideas on how to do this?
Added: To clarify - I expect this to be a standard situation with a standard solution. FYI - I have a MySQL DB available. Surely there must be some ready-to-use code out there that solves this? I can, of course, write my own session saving stuff and auto_prepend option pointed out by Greg seems promising - but that would feel like reinventing the wheel. :P
Added 2: The load balancing is DNS based. I'm not sure how this works, but I guess it should be something like this.
Added 3: OK, I see that one solution is to use auto_prepend option to insert a call to session_set_save_handler() in every script and write my own DB persister, perhaps throwing in calls to memcached for better performance. Fair enough.
Is there also some way that I could avoid coding all this myself? Like some famous and well-tested PHP plugin?
Added much, much later: This is the way I went in the end: How to properly implement a custom session persister in PHP + MySQL?
Also, I simply included the session handler manually in all pages.
You could set PHP to handle the sessions in the database, so all your servers share same session information as all servers use the same database for that.
A good tutorial for that can be found here.
The way we handle this is through memcached. All it takes is changing the php.ini similar to the following:
session.save_handler = memcache
session.save_path = "tcp://path.to.memcached.server:11211"
We use AWS ElastiCache, so the server path is a domain, but I'm sure it'd be similar for local memcached as well.
This method doesn't require any application code changes.
You don't mentioned what technology you are using for load balancing (software, hardware etc.); but in any case, the solution to your problem is to employ "sticky sessions" on the load balancer.
In summary, this means that when the first request from a "new" visitor comes in, they are assigned a specific server from the cluster: all future requests for the lifetime of their session are then directed to that server. In practice this means that applications written to work on a single server can be up-scaled to a balanced environment with zero/few code changes.
If you are using a hardware balancer, such as a Radware device, then the sticky sessions is configured as part of the cluster setup. Hardware devices usually give you more fine-grained control: such as which server a new user is assigned to (they can check for health status etc. and pick the most healthy / least utilised server), and more control of what happens when a server fails and drops out of the cluster. The drawback of hardware balancers is the cost - but they are worth it imho.
As for software balancers, it comes down to what you are using. For Apache there is the stickysession property on mod_proxy - and plenty of articles via google to get this working with the php session ( for example )
Edit:
From other comments posted after the original question, it sounds like your "balancing" is done via Round Robin DNS, so the above probably won't apply. I'll refrain from commenting further and starting a flame against round robin dns.
The easiest thing to do is configure your load balancer to always send the same session to the same server.
If you still want to use session_set_save_handler then maybe take a look at auto_prepend.
If you have time and you still want to check more solutions, take a look at
http://redis4you.com/articles.php?id=01..
Using redis you are fault tolerant. From my point of view, it could be better than memcache solutions because of this robustness.
If you are using php sessions you could share with NFS the /tmp directory, where I think the sessions are stored, between all the servers in the cluster. That way you don't need database.
Edited: You can also use an external service like memcachedb (persistent and fast) and store the session info in the memcachedb index and indentify it with a hash of the content or even the session ID.
When we had this situation we implemented some code that lives in a common header.
Essentially for each page we check if we know the session Id. If we dont we check if we're in the situation whehich you describe, by checking if we have stored sesion data in the DB.Otherwise we just start a new session.
Obviously this requires all relevant data to be copied to the DB, but if you encapsulate your session data in a seperate class then it works OK.
you could also try using memcache as session handler
Might be too late, but check this out: http://www.pureftpd.org/project/sharedance
Sharedance is a high-performance server to centralize ephemeral key/data
pairs on remote hosts, without the overhead and the complexity of an SQL
database.
It was mainly designed to share caches and sessions between a pool of web
servers. Access to a sharedance server is trivial through a simple PHP API and
it is compatible with the expectations of PHP 4 and PHP 5 session handlers.
When it comes to php session handling in the Load Balancing Cluster, it's best to have Sticky Sessions. For that ask the network of datacenter who is maintaining the load balancer to enable the sticky session. Once that is enabled you'll don't need worry about sessions at php end