SQL: MD5() vs hex() - php

SQLite doesn't have MD5 built in, so I'm considering using the hash function instead. I don't know much about hashing, but I can see that hash() output is numerical and of varying length while MD5() returns mixed characteds/numbers of a fixed length.
I couldn't find anything on this on stackoverflow or google.
Can hash() with salt be used to safely store passwords?
EDIT: Super embarassing mistake, I actually ment hex(), not hash() - Sorry for the error

hex() is not a cryptographic function. All it does is return the hexadecimal value of the string you pass into it. This is not a secure way of storing passwords.
You want to create a hash value before storing the password in your SQLite database. Use the PHP hash() function as other answers have suggested.

You have this tagged as PHP as well, so why not use a PHP function to accomplish what you need? PHPass seems to be hot right now as people are moving away from sha1() and md5().

You can use hash to store passwords as long as you use seed, and use individual seed for every password. The hash function creates value which is unique for a unique string (you can hash other datatypes as well) so it is a good candidate for your task.

With the php hash function you can pass SHA256 to the first parameter and it will create a strong hash of the password + salt. There is no need for extra extensions, for a web application other than a high security system like a banking site, sha256 is fine. It may even be overkill.
hash('sha256',$salt . $password);
Should do the trick. Now you can save the data in a varchar column in your database since the hash function outputs a hex string. The hash function has variable output because it can use many different hashing algorithms. the hash function with sha256 as show above, will output 64 characters in a string. Putting the salt at the beginning is better than putting it at the end, as more randomness at the beginning of hashes is better than randomness at the end.

I couldn't find anything in the SQLite docs regarding a hash() function. You may be using SQLite with some basic third-party C/C++ plugins included, or you may be using the PHP hash() function (which allows you to specify the hashing algorithm to use).
Generally, a one-way hash is a good way to store passwords, and if it's the PHP hash, used with SHA256, I see no reason why it wouldn't work for you. Just be aware that some hashing functions have demonstrated flaws; MD5 can produce predictable and exploitable collisions, and SHA1 also has theoretical vulnerabilities. SHA2 algorithms including SHA256 are based on SHA1, but have not yet been shown to suffer the same weakness.
In any case, to help ensure a unique hash, use a hashing algorithm that produces a hash equal or larger than the message; it is trivial to prove that, given a finite set of hash values, there cannot be a unique hash value for each of the set of messages larger than the hash size.

Chances are you are using the PHP hash() function, which is more then functional. I would stay away from SHA1 and MD5, as they both have vulnerabilities or known reverse-lookup tables (IE, if someone got the hashed password, they could go to many sites available online and enter that in, and it will give them a password that will, when passed through MD5 or SHA1, give the same password.)
hash(256) or hash(512) are way more than what you could probably need, so those will probably be safe. Just remember to salt your passwords. You can never be too careful.

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What different between md5() .vs. hash when saving password?

Today, I have a discussed with my friend about security with a website.
I am usually using a hash with random salts when saving a password of the user.
Because hash can't decompile, my friend often using md5() to encrypt password of the user.
Problem is:
I tried to explain to him, md5() can decryption, but he took:
" I can using md5(md5(md5('password'))) or md5() + random string ".
So, I also mention about this will have much time to save into database, when the user login, again to decryption.
But it also not enough to convince. Have anyone can suggest me how to explain easily to understand?
Thanks.
MD5 is a hash function (one way) and cannot be decrypted, the problems with MD5 for password storing are different.
MD5 is ways too fast for hashing passwords, one can calculate about 100 Giga MD5 per second with a good GPU. That makes brute-forcing too easy, testing a whole english dictionary is a matter of micro seconds.
Combining MD5 like md5(md5(md5('password'))) does not add much of security, password cracker tools often offer this out of the box.
That is why we should use a hash function with a cost factor like BCrypt. The cost factor determines how much time is used to calculate a single hash, it should be as much as your server can bear. PHP offers the function password_hash() to generate safe password hashes.
MD5 and SHA are hash functions (SHA is actually a family of hash functions) - they take a piece of data, compact it and create a suitably unique output that is very hard to emulate with a different piece of data. They don't encrypt anything - you can't take MD5 or SHA output and "unhash" it to get back to your starting point. The difference between the two lies in what algorithm they use to create the hash. Also note that MD5 is now broken as a way was discovered to easily generate collisions and should not be used nor trusted anymore.
RSA is an assymetric encryption algorithm. You have two keys (private and public) and you can perform a function with one key (encrypt or decrypt) and reverse with the other key. Which key you use depends on whether you are trying to do a digital signature or an encryption.

Encryption - does it work this way or am I thinking wrong?

So I know that MD5's are technically a no-no in new applications, but I randomly had a thought of this:
Since
md5($password);
is insecure, wouldn't
md5(md5($password))
be a better alternative?
would it keep getting more secure the more I use it? Say if I made a function like this
function ExtremeEncrypt($password)
{
$encryptedpass = md5(sha1(md5(md5($pass))));
return $encryptedpass;
}
Would this function be a good alternative to say using a random salt for every account like vbulletin does.
Double hashing a string does nothing except limit your key space and make collisions more likely. Please don't do this. Double md5 hashing is actually less secure than a single hash with some attack vectors.
A better option would be to use the password_hash function in php 5.5 or ircmaxell's password_compat library for earlier php versions.
First of: hash and encryption are not the same. Hash is a one-way function while encryption expects data could be decrypted.
You should not try to invent your own solution when it comes to security. In PHP, since 5.5 version, there is native solution called Password Hashing. md5() is insecure and you should be aware of that.
If you have PHP below 5.5 version, you should use salt to hash & store your passwords.
You have lots of answers here and they are accurate but they don't really explain why.
MD5 is a hashing algorithm. What a Hashing algorithm does, is take a long piece of data and analyse it cryptographically in a way that creates a smaller piece of data. So from ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ with my custom hash algorithm I might create a single digit hash 5.
When that is done, you lose information - ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ contains far more information than 5 and there is no way to make the translation the other way.
The problem with hashing in a way that only allows an outcome of 0-9 ( this is effectively a Checksum ) is that if you take two pieces of text, the chances are quite high that they will have the same hash. So maybe with my algorithm ZZZZZZZZZ will also produce a hash of 5. This is what is termed a Hash Collision.
Now what happens if I take the hash of my hash? Well, my starting point is already very low information - the most it can possibly be is one of ten digits, so the chance of a collision is now exceedingly high. Supposing when my hash algorithm runs on numbers it returns 1 if it is odd and 0 if it is even- so if I have a hash of ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ which comes to 5 then I have a 10% chance of a collision. But if I make a hash of that hash, I will now have a 50% chance of a collision.
The trick of cryptography is hiding information in such an enormous possible space that it is unbelievably hard to find. The more you shrink that possible space, the less well hidden your information is.
Short answer: No.
md5 is easy to break using brute-force. Adding additional layers of hashing only slows down a brute-force attack linearly.
First of all md5 isn't really encryption, because there isn't a decryption method to it. It's called hashing.
The standard practice is to salt your passwords:
$salt = [some random/unique number, people usually use user_id or timestamp]
$hashed_password = sha1($salt . $password)
Remember that you need to know the salt, hence usually it means storing it along with the hashed password.
You can have multiple salts, and arrange them however you like.

Md5 salt password php

I know that there are alots of questions about this subject but i really need to ask this.
Today I've been working on encrypting passwords with md5.
So what I've done is.
I got 4 salts. (they changes depending on user values)
from email id and substr then md5 them
from email and id substr other positions
a long string, substr it and then md5 it
another long string, substr it and then md5 it
Then i md5 salt1 and 3 and the password with salt 2 and salt4
After this I have to change the password automatically whenever a user changes his email or his id getting changed.
What do you guys think about this?
Nothing.
MD5 is broken and bad.
Using the mailaddress as salt is a good idea. But using md5 is not. Use instead bcrypt, scrypt or pbkdf2.
Don't invent your own ecryption, unless you really know what you are doing, and trust me, you don't
First, let us define a few terms.
Encryption is when you encode a message so that it cannot be read. Encryption involves a plaintext, a cipher and a key. It is like putting a book (the plaintext) in a locked room (cipher), which can only be opened using a known tool (a key). There are many kinds of encryption, but that is a simple description. Encryption is two-way, meaning that you can encode and decode the message.
Cryptographic hash is when you take any kind of data and generate a fixed size value for it (usually called a hash or a digest). Cryptographic hashes are one-way, which means that you cannot reverse the process.
A salt is a unique string, or a collection of bits, similar to a nonce (a unique number that is only used once). Salts are only used to make it infeasible for a cracker to process a list of hashes. They are not supposed to be used as a secret (i.e. like a cryptographic key). The only reason people usually talk about randomness when it comes to salts is because they want to generate a unique salt (if the randomness is not great enough they may get colliding salts, for instance).
Okay, now to how you should hash a password.
A relatively safe way of hashing a password is to simply tack on a unique hash onto a password, and then save the salt with the password:
$pass = 'this is my password';
$salt = uniqid('', true);
$hash = sha1($pass . $salt);
// INSERT INTO users ('hash', 'salt') VALUES ('$hash', '$salt') WHERE ...
That is an okay way of doing it if your website does not retrieve any sensitive data from its users.
If you deal with sensitive data, or if you just want to make sure that you are doing everything you can to keep stuff safe, then there is a PHP function that does the hashing for you. It is called crypt() (read the documentation to learn how it works). Here is an example of how to hash a password using the function:
$pass = 'this is my password';
$salt = 'unique string';
$hash = crypt($password, '$2y$07$'.$salt.'$');
echo $hash;
That will securely hash a password.
The thing to realize is that the crypt() function is much more secure than anything you can come up with (unless you are a specialist in the area).
In newer versions of PHP (5.5.0+) there is a password hashing API that makes it even simpler to hash a password.
There are also various hashing libraries out there. PHPass is a popular one.
It is bad, because it uses MD5.
MD5 is a very fast operation. It can be executed billion of times per second on graphic cards hardware. It is considered bad practice to use it for any password related things.
Use bcrypt. Use a random salt. Use the upcoming PHP API for hashing, verifying and rehashing passwords. This include file implements it for versions starting with PHP 5.3.7: https://github.com/ircmaxell/password_compat
Well, "MD5 is broken and bad" is a little exagerated. Even if it can be brute-forced with a lot of CPU, it is not "broken" and is still a very useful algorithm for a lot of things involving hashing.
So "MD5 should not be used for password encryption" sounds much better to me.
When using PHP, an easy and safe option is to rely on the password_hash() (which natively generates a random salt) and password_verify() functions.
The advantage is that the encryption algorithm will transparently be updated with each new PHP version (at the moment PASSWORD_DEFAULT is set to bcrypt, but should bcrypt be "broken" it can be set to a newer algorithm), which makes any code using those functions quite resilient.
I personally do not recommend involving of the user id and his email into the hashing of his password.
You can deal with the password by:
Dynamic salt per user based on random string generated on user registration
Prepend one part of the salt and append the other around the password
Double md5: md5(md5($password))
Etc.
a simple way would be to generate a random salt for each user and hash your password like this
public function encodePassword( $raw, $salt ) {
return hash('sha256', $salt.$raw);
}
For high security hash, you can check this link which explain how to implement PBKDF2:
http://crackstation.net/hashing-security.htm#phpsourcecode

How to make a permanent tripcode?

I mean, crypt()'s return is always different.
So how do websites like 4chan do to give a permanent tripcode to a password?
Are they stored in a database?
4chan's tripcodes are created using a specific formula, and are a shorter version of a hash. You can achieve the same effect by using MD5 or SHA1.
Encrypt string to MD5 (PHP):
$md5 = md5("$string");
Encrypt string to SHA1 (PHP):
$sha1 = sha1("$string");
There is no way to reverse the hashing process (just like tripcodes), but with time and power they can be "bruteforced" back to plain text.
It's quite common to salt a password, then hash it using DES, MD5, SHA, or newer hashes. The salt is then stored as part of the password.
PHP's crypt works this way, although the exact algorithm it uses to hash the password may be different between versions of PHP... and even between operating systems, although the latter supposedly changed in PHP 5.3. (PHP now includes its own hashing library instead of relying on the OS library, which is really, really important if you're using Windows, as crypt function on Windows only supported DES with 2-byte salt prior to this)
Edit:
Note: crypt has an optional second argument. Passing the encrypted password as the second argument will usually get PHP to detect the salt and algorithm used to originally hash the password, namely because everything other than DES start with $#$ where # is a number.
You pass the salt to crypt() as the second argument. This causes the output to use that salt instead of generating one on the fly.
The salt being randomly generated is why crypt("something") returns different results each time. If I run crypt("something", "ab"), it'll be identical every time. I don't have PHP here to check what the value is, though.
Wikipedia has an article about Tripcodes.
I think there's a table "tripcodes" where tripcodes were generated with the Wikipedia's and they are associated with strings they come from, no?
Yes password are stored in a database but without the use of crypt(). They use sha1() or encryption database function like AES_ENCRYPT() in mysql.

PHP md5 explained

I am working on this PHP project and I have many places that an md5 is being used. I have even used it many times, but still today I am unclear on what the function is doing. I realize it decrypts the value passed in but what about undoing it to get it back to the original. Maybe i am not clear about the whole process and if anyone has information about the process I would highly appreciate it
md5 is a hashing function
It only works one way.
A hash function is any well-defined
procedure or mathematical function
that converts a large, possibly
variable-sized amount of data into a
small datum. The values returned by a
hash function are called hash values,
hash codes, hash sums, checksums or
simply hashes.
MD5 is a one way encryption hash.
It doesn't decrypt anything, rather it creates you a hash code that you can use to compare with other MD5 hashes. It used to be that if two hashes matched you could be confident that the two inputs were same. Several collisions were eventually found, followed by ways to create collisions intentionally (reducing the value of MD5 for security purposes). It's a fairly fast algorithm, so there can still be some use to it (checking for corruption during the transmission of large amounts of data, and other other places where you are may be providing other forms of protection against a true attack).
MD5 is a not encryption per se, but rather an algorithm for generating checksums. Whatever data you pass in, you will get out a hexadecimal (only 0-9 and A-F) string of fixed length. The idea is that it's very unlikely that any other data than the one you passed in will result in the same MD5 string. As the result has a fixed length while your data can be any length there will obviously be other data that results in the same MD5 string, but once again, it's very unlikely that you'd find it.
Thus, there is no way to actually "decrypt" an MD5 string. What you do is, you generate it from some data, then generate it from some other data, and compare the two MD5 strings. If they are the same, you can be quite certain (although not 100%), that the two input data are identical.
MD5 does not decrypt anything. It is considered a one-way hashing algorithm. For a given input it returns a fixed length string. Additionally, for two given inputs that are fairly similar but not identical the md5 value returned will not be predictable.
Hashing is good for a lot of things, for example file verification. Although off topic, if you took a file and computed a hash for it and then sent someone a file along with a hash they could easily verify they received the file correct by hashing it themselves and then asserting their hash matches the supplied hash.
Another example would be something such as authentication on a site. After you authenticate a user, you start a session and in that session you store md5(username+time) and also store a cookie on users browser of md5(username+time) then on subsequent page requests you could check your session hash matches the cookie hash to assert the user is who they say they are. Md5 is not a good hash for this type of thing but hashing in general can help in situations such as these. sha1 would be a better hashing function for this application or even sha512.
MD5 is a cryptographic hash function. Cryptographic hash functions has the special property that they generate a result based on input, but it is almost impossible to recover the original input. It's kinda an "one-way encryption". Also, by passing the same data through a cryptographic hash function you should always get the same result.
While they are not preferred for encryption, since it's one-way only, but they are very useful when storing passwords. This is because, as I said, the same input would always have the same result. This makes storing the password in plain-text, or even recoverable version of it (such as encrypted passwords) unnecessary. Instead, you would just generate a hash from the password and store it in a database. Whenever someone would try to log in, you would retrieve the hash from the database, and then generate a new hash from the password entered by the user and compare the two.
Please note that MD5 is not very secure, you should try to use some other more secure hashing function instead, such as SHA512:
<?php
$hash = hash('sha512', $data);
?>
Useful links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function
http://php.net/manual/en/function.hash.php
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function.
The strength of a hash function is dependent on its difficulty to reverse.
It generates a one way hash of the input data, using the md5 algorithm
Some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function

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