where does session save? - php

I would like to know where PHP session data is saved; is it in client browser? or on the server?
When I disable cookies in my browser setting, PHP can't save session data, but in php.ini, I can change the session save path.
Is session data stored on the server or client browser?

The session data that you read and write using $_SESSION is stored on server side, usually in text files in a temporary directory. They can not be accessed from outside.
The thing connecting a session to a client browser is the session ID, which is usually stored in a cookie (see the comments for exceptions to that rule). This ID is, and should be, the only thing about your session that is stored on client side.
If you delete the cookie in the browser, the connection to that session is lost, even if the file on the server continues to exist for some time.
The session.save_path variable influences the location on the server where the session data is stored. If you are not the server's administrator, it is usually not necessary to change it.

It's both! A session saves the actual session information on the server, but gives an identification cookie to the client to know which session belongs to which client. The information in the cookie itself is worthless, but allows the server to identify the client and use the actual session information.

Blockquote "Is session data stored on the server or client browser?"
It makes me think of a valet parking system. The valet (server) keeps your car (session data), but he/she gives you a ticket (session id) to hang onto which proves that the car is yours when you need access to it. If you lose your ticket (by deleting your cache, or closing the browser), your car (session data) is as good as gone since you can't prove it's your car anymore.
Okay, it's just an analogy...and breaks down quickly. E.g. you don't actually own your session information like you do your car. And you don't get to drive it away.

Both, the session in the client(browser) is saved as a cookie. This cookie references a session which also resides on the server.

It is stored on the server side to maintain security; but additional cookies could be also stored on the client side.

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How bad are sessions for my server performance?

Php uses session to store a cookie on the client side and than matches that cookie name with a file on a server. Example:
PHPSESSID=kbn5gncbf1783uv4kpbg84gdq8
matches with the file (A FILE, not DATABASE) in
/var/lib/php/session
This means all the serverside cookie data is stored in files. Imagine having 50000 users on your site using persistent sessions (that don't get deleted after browser restart). This means 50000 files in /var/lib/php/session. How big of a performance hit are my users getting because the server needs to find and open a file on my harddrive?
Is it better performance wise to use regular client side cookies and then see if that cookie corresponds to a registered user entry in my database?

PHP maintain Session ID Between Multiple Servers Memcached

I need to share PHP sessions between multiple servers. However, I'm not sure how to maintain the session ID created on one server and how to pass it to the next server.
Essentially, a client can upload a file, but which server the file is sent to depends on which server is not overloaded.
For example, session_start() is called on test.com
An AJAX post is sent to serv1.test.com. When I call session_start() on serv1.test.com, I want it to pull the existing session information that was created by session_start() on test.com. However, that doesn't seem to be the way PHP sessions work?
I installed Memcached and followed this guide here:
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-share-php-sessions-on-multiple-memcached-servers-on-ubuntu-14-04
I have one centralized memcache server that test.com and serv1.test.com are configured to use. However, session_start() creates a unique session on each server instead of reusing the same session. If I send the PHPSESSIONID to each server, then I can load the existing session.
How do I accomplish what I'm trying to do? I could send the PHPSESSIONID as a variable in the AJAX POST, but isn't that a security risk? That is something that could be changed by the user...
How do I get serv1.test.com to continue to use the same session set on test.com? How do I pass that session ID to serv1.test.com securely so I can use session_id("existingsessionid_from_test.com") to open the existing session?
The solution was to set the session.cookie_domain to include subdomains.
session.cookie_domain = ".test.com"
Thanks frz3993

Who creates a session and how does cookie and any role in it?

Who creates a session and how does cookie and any role in it?
I was asked this question in a company's interview process and didn't know the answer. I would like to to know which side creates Sessions i.e whether the client side or server side and does cookie has any role in it.
Also how the server understands which session is provided to which client and which user of client if multiple users are logged in?
What’s the difference between a cookie and a session in PHP?
PHP sessions improve upon cookies because they allow web applications to store and retrieve more information than cookies. PHP sessions actually use cookies, but they add more functionality and security.
Sessions store data on the server, not on the browser like cookies
The main difference between a session and a cookie is that session data is stored on the server, whereas cookies store data in the visitor’s browser. Sessions use a session identifier to locate a particular user’s session data. This session identifier is normally stored in the user’s web browser in a cookie, but the sensitive data that needs to be more secure — like the user’s ID, name, etc. — will always stay on the server.
Sessions are more secure than cookies
So, why exactly should we use sessions when cookies work just fine? Well, as we already mentioned, sessions are more secure because the relevant information is stored on the server and not sent back and forth between the client and server. The second reason is that some users either turn off cookies or reject them. In that scenario, sessions, while designed to work with a cookie, can actually work without cookies as a workaround, as you can read about here: Can PHP sessions work without cookies?.
Sessions need extra space, unlike cookies
PHP sessions, unlike cookies which are just stored on the user’s browser, need a temporary directory on the server where PHP can store the session data. For servers running Unix this isn’t a problem at all, because the /tmp directory is meant to be used for things like this. But, if your server is running Windows and a version of PHP earlier than 4.3.6, then the server will need to be configured – here is what to do: Create a new folder on your Windows server – you can call it something like C:\temp. You want to be sure that every user can read and write to this folder. Then, you will need to edit your php.ini file, and set the value of session.save_path to point to the folder which you created on the Windows server (in this case, that folder is under C:\temp). And finally, you will need to restart your web server so that the changes in the php.ini file take effect.
Sessions must use the session_start function
A very important thing to remember when using sessions is that each page that will use a session must begin by calling the session_start() function. The session_start() function tells PHP to either start a brand new session or access an existing one.
How session_start in PHP uses cookies
The first time the session_start() function is used, it will try to send a cookie with a name of PHPSESSID and a value of something that looks like a30f8670baa8e10a44c878df89a2044b – which is the session identifier that contains 32 hexadecimal letters. Because cookies must be sent before any data is sent to the browser, this also means that session_start must be called before any data is sent to the Web browser.
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The server creates the session and sets the cookie, which is stored in the client's browser. The cookie contains a session identifier (a string of characters) that allows the user to access a particular session on the server. This session identifier corresponds to the session on file.

why is my php session in the smartphone can't be destroyed after i close the web browser?

I'm a new PHP and jQuery mobile user, and i'm using them to build an smartphone web APP. currently, I'm testing the APP with chrome on the computer and web browser on my sumsang S7526.
I learned, if I learnt correctly, that a PHP session can be auto destroyed if the browser is closed.
I used session_start() in my homepage.php and login.php. I expect that after a user logs in and then closes the browser, the session ends. this does work on my chrome. but it does not on my sumsang.
When I log in and then close my browser on my Samsung, and then I reopen the browser, I'm there still logged in. the session id is the one before.
Even I tried to shut my sumsang and power it on again, the session id is still the same. Why is that?
i tried again. it seems that my samsung browser saves the session cookie by default. including phpsessid. i tried to get the browser close event with $(window).close(). but no luck. is it another event.
thank you guys!
"Session" stored not on your phone - whatever its name.
Its stored on the web-server.
Browser send to the server only id of the session - using different methids. Server identify this id to track this uniq browser "session" and get data from stored session file or another method of session storage.
When you close your browser - server known nothing about it. Ther is some processes on the server - common named GC (garbage collectors) who clean up old expired session files.
Please read Sessions reference
By default PHP stores the session ID in a cookie on the client side. Try to delete ALL cookies (including session cookies).
For more information check Session configuration options.

Help me see if I'm correctly understanding how sessions work in PHP

Session ID is stored on the client in a way that usually dissipates when the browser is closed (stored as a cookie?).
Session ID and associated data is stored on the server (where?) for each client that starts one.
The main thing I wonder about is how the server knows when a session has ended, though. If the client no longer has the session ID stored (say, after closing their browser) and they try to ask the server for another session, it starts a new session. Does the server know to garbage collect the previous session data after some set amount of time? It seems to me like something that could be abused...
Session ID is usually stored on client browser using a cookie (alternatively, in URL parameters, but this is not recommended, as explained in http://php.net/manual/en/session.security.php)
Sessions are stored in the directory defined by session.save_path (e.g. /var/lib/php/sessions), or the system's temporary directory if this is not set (usually /tmp).
Sessions are garbage collected periodically, either by PHP itself during a request, or by a cron job (e.g. on Debian this is the default). See http://php.net/manual/en/session.configuration.php#ini.session.gc-probability
The main thing I wonder about is how the server knows when a session has ended
He doesn't know. However he knows when a session has not been used since a certain period of time, so it can delete unused sessions.
Does the server know to garbage collect the previous session data after some set amount of time?
Yes. This is defined by the session.gc_maxlifetime ini setting. Any session older than that will be deleted during a garbage collect. Garbage collect frequency can be tuned with the session.gc_probability and session.gc_divisor ini settings. (See doc.)
It seems to me like something that could be abused.
If you mean that someone may be able to create too many staled sessions on the server; yes this is probably true.
what you describe is perfectly right. And yes, it can be abused easily. There's even a tool out that automatically hijacks sessions around you (search for firesheep). The sessions are usually stored as either SESSION cookies or are passed between sever and client each time.
Check the PHP for a very brief intro, and some google on session and security will get you further.
Sessions expire automatically and are cleared up depending on the settings (after 20 days of no usage for example) and they are stored on linux, usually under /tmp/
Check php.ini for more information

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