Alright so I currently develop on a remote server and use putty for an SSH connection to deal with SVN. I develop with Eclipse PDT only due to the fact that it has the remote system explorer, so I don't have to actually have the files on my local machine to edit them, which is great.
Netbeans is my IDE of choice, and I've been googling for a while trying to figure out how I can possibly make this work with a netbeans project. I can't seem to find any plugins/any statement discussing the possibility of a future plugin/implementation to incorporate this.
Has anyone successfully accomplished this? Are there perhaps any standalone clients I can use to achieve this?
Thanks guys.
you don't need plugins with Netbeans for Svn (Git requires a plugin), you just have to click on "Team" -> "Subversion" on the Menu bar on top.
In "Window" -> "Services" you can browse some stuff like databases or team server too.
There is always the option to set up netbeans to browse a remote folder via ftp ( http://blogs.oracle.com/netbeansphp/entry/ftp_support_added )
You could also use sshfs to create a local mount of the remote folders/files.
I do agree that you should probably be using svn/git/whatever to develop locally and then push to the live site when ready instead.
Note: Netbeans does svn/cvs built in, but git requires the third party nbgit plugin which is still in it's infancy.
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I need an effective way to automatically push changes made in Eclipse to a test web server. These are all PHP changes. I am thinking SCP or FTP would be great with an easy to use plugin, but I would be open to other suggestions.
Background
At my company, we have Windows development machines, but the only way to test the PHP is to push the code over to a Linux machine that is running an Apache installation. Normally, I would just test locally, using WAMPServer or XAMPP, but I just started with the company and their code base is full of OS specific code (one day we will fix that!).
I have currently setup Git on my machine and I simply commit everything over to a bare repo on the test server. Then I have a post-receive hook that forces a pull into the actual Apache web accessible folder.
This git setup works fine, but I really don't like polluting the blame log with useless commits (i.e. I added a comma to line X in javascript). Things like that are not useful to other developers.
In the end, I won't be pushing from my test server anyway. Instead, I'll be pushing from my Windows machine to a central git server for our team (once I get it set up), so I'm not really sure we should be using version control to deploy to the test web server. It seems like using an SCP or FTP plugin would make the most sense.
Question Restated
Are there any Eclipse plugins that could automatically SCP/FTP to a directory on file save? I've searched the Eclipse market place and I am really not sure where to go with this.
Thanks for your help!
Have a look at the Remote System Explorer plugin for Eclipse: http://eclipse.org/tm/
I am an avid webdev hobbyist and freelance, up until now I simply edit the website live (put a maintenance message up while its being made), now all my projects up until now have also been very small.
eg I make a site, show em, take money and go, I've never had to work on a site after it's gone live.
Now my new project is pretty big and I know I will have to edit it after its gone live and maybe have a small team of devs (atm just me)
So how do people professionally handle this? I know I will need a prefix-amp app cos i run an apache server, I've also heared that people use github for versioning, but I'm not really sure because apparently its not svn?
Thanks
ps. I have a windows 7 pc, so no mac apps please
up until now i simply edit the website live
Terrible in my book ;)
so how do people professionally handle this?
First you need to setup a development server (it would be best to keep it as close as possible to the expected live environments). On this server you would install all the software you need.
You may also want to setup a staging server.
i know i will need a prefix-amp app
I hope you are not talking about those one click installers. If you would do it professionally you should install everything yourself that way you can set it up the way you need it.
ive also heared that people use github for versioning, but im not really sure because apparently its not svn?
GitHub is just a website. What you are looking for is git or svn for versioning. You could also setup a git or svn server locally instead of using services like GitHub. Basically what versioning is is that when somebody makes a change to the code he/she would need commit the changes. This way it is easy to keep track of changes in the codebase (like what was changed, when was it changed and by whom).
Local XAMP-stack (LAMP, or WAMP) for development
intranet-system for test and maybe staging
Of course the live system
Versioncontrol, I prefer git. Of course you can use SVN too, but... lets say: It's SVN.
Make changes local, test this changes local
everythings fine: Push it into the "master" vcs-repository
New version ready (or it's "sunday-night-release-time")? Push all that stuff on test/stage
Everythings fine there too: Push it into the live system
Thats very shortened of course, but it should give you an idea.
The tool where you manage your software version is not that important. Use Git, or SVN or whatever, the one you like most. But use _one_.
Equally important is that you run the "page" on two sites, a test and a live system, strictly apart. Both systems have to be very close in their layout, all changes must first be done in the test system, be verified and then done in the same manner in the live system. Do not allow changes only to be made to the live system ('cause it's just a small change'). No exceptions.
Then think about deployment: how will you transfer changed files to the target system ? You need routines for this, that run once started and don't forget a step in between.
Firstly you need some kind of versioning system: either SVN or Git. GitHub is simply an online service that provides managed Git repositories. Secondly you need a development server.
If it were just you doing development, you could host both of these on your local desktop PC, but since other developers are going to be joining, you need a remote server. If you don't want to be running a server out of your home, the best option is a VPS (virtual private server) on which you can install Git, Apache, etc. and anything else you need.
As for development software, take your pick- there are loads of options. A common choice is the NetBeans IDE and TortoiseGit combo. You use NetBeans to develop your code on, automatically uploading to your development server, then you TortoiseGit to commit and sync changes.
Only when you're ready to go live do you copy the code from the dev server to the production server.
I have a ubuntu machine I have setup. I installed apache2 and php5 on it. I can access the web server from other machines on the network via http://linux-server. I have subversion installed on it. I also have vsftpd installed on it so I can ftp to it from another computer on the network.
Myself and other users currently use dreamweaver to checkin-checkout files directly from our live site to make changes.
I want the connect to the linux server from pc. make the changes on the test server until ready and then pushed to the live site. I want to use subversion also into this workflow as well. but not sure what the best workflow is or how to set this up.
I have no experience with linux, svn, or even using a test server, the checkin/out we are currently doing is the way I have always done it.
I have hit many snags already just getting what I have setup because of my lack of knowledge in the area. Dreamweaver 5 has integration with subversion but I can't figure out how to get it to work.
I want to setup and create the best workflow possible.
I dont expect anyone to be able to give me an answer that will enlighten me enough to know everthing I need to know to do what I want to do (altough if possible that would be great) instead I am looking for maybe a knowledge path like answer. Like a general outline of what I need to do accompanied with links to learn how to do it. like read this book to learn linux, then read this article to learn svn, etc., then you should know what to do. I would be happy just getting it all setup, but I would like to know what I am actually doing while setting it up too.
I'm sure you've solved your issue by now, but for future reference to other users, here's the steps I would suggest to get started:
Create a repository for your project (in Ubuntu)
Host the SVN repo using Apache
I'd read up on the subversion book to look at some strategies for development with SVN.
To connect to your SVN machine, you'll need to use it's IP or hostname instead of your svn live site you mentioned. With proper forwarding, it's easy to access it from anywhere.
I'm looking for an editor that can read and write remote PHP files via sFTP. I'm talking about not having a local copy of my PHP files.
But here is the tricky part : I'd like that editor to be aware of all the files in my projet, and provide me with intellisense-like auto-completion, classes structures, etc...Just like Eclipse PDT, Aptana and NetBeans do, but with the "remote project storage and awareness" feature.
Do you know about any editor with these features ?
Thanks !
Edit : I'm absolutely not working on my production server, but on a development server. It's mostly because I need to works under windows on my desktop PC and don't want host my projects locally for various compatibility and tools availability reasons, and use linux as a server OS.
May not be a good idea:
Warnings:
1) Disconnect:
What if you are coding and your connection gets lost, you may get a corrupted file or loose some work. Disconnects occur much more often that power loss in your home/office, and you can safeguard by using a small UPC - that will give a minute to save your work.
2) SCM:
Use git, mercurial, svn or what have you, to speed up deployment. Increases ability to share code, backup and roll backs.
3) Auto completion will not work very well over network connection, because ( at least in NetBeans) it scans your project to figure out what you want to auto-complete. It takes a few seconds even on a local machine.
Solution:
If after all of the above you still want to do it, you can trick your editor by mounting remote storage as a local drive. You didn't specify your OS but on Mac and Linux - you can easily do it - take a look at Fuse. http://fuse.sourceforge.net/
Khmm apperatnly there was an attempt to port Fuse to Windows:
http://fuse4win.4host.ru/
Hope that helps
Update
There are also a few commercial products - one was recommended by macworld I think ( they are both for Mac and Windows)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDrive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpanDrive
On Windows the Zeus editor can do seamless ftp/sftp editing.
These remote ftp files can also be defined to belong to a project/workspace.
But the Zeus PHP intellisensing will only work for local files.
You can use NetBeans for this, you will have your project saved locally but you can set to upload the file anytime when you save that file. Right click on your project, Properties, Run Configuration, Run As: Remote website. Click on Remote Connection: ... Manage and add your FTP account. Don't forget to set Upload files: to On Save. I have had no problem with this configuration and I am working for one year with NetBeans.
For quick editing I am using PSPad.
I don't think this is something that actually exists. Mainly because intellisense and class structures rely on being able to parse your complete project. Doing this over FTP would take way to long to actually be of any practical use.
You might be able to find an editor that will automatically upload any change you make locally though.
I'd second the comments about not working directly on your live environment.
As you've mentioned Eclipse / Aptana - perhaps consider using something like Git or SVN, with a post-commit hook to immediately publish to your live environment each time you commit. That way you reduce the risk by being able to easily roll back any changes that break your live server.
You can use Eclipse (with suitable git/svn plugin) to check out your entire site direct from the repository, and have all the code completion goodness you need. "Saving" is then just a case of committing your changes back to the repository, which would automatically update your server thanks to the post-commit hook.
It's still not ideal, and very risky to develop on a live server, but if you really have no preview environment, then this is perhaps slightly safer than simply working directly through ftp.
I'm curious why you'd need to not keep a local copy - yet you've said the project seems quite small - perhaps taking another approach to the problem would be safer?
I currently use Notepad++ for most of my development. I have been checking out other, more full-featured options and would like to switch (I'm in particular a fan of Aptana so far) but there is one thing about Notepad++ that I really like and I haven't been able to get so far.
My current workflow is something like this: Workflow (I tried to embed this image and it showed up in previews but not in the post, sorry)
Workflow http://evanalyze.com/images/workflow.jpg
The process is this:
Download file from web server
Make edits in NP++
Save (this automatically saves a local copy in my default directory, which is also the folder I have setup using Subversion with Tourtise SVN)
When I want to commit a change to SVN, go through the local folder that has an up to date copy
What I can't figure out how to do with Aptana is automatically store a local copy of a file I download from my server, edit and save back to the server. Is there some way to do this? If so, that would solve my problem immediately.
Other options would be a suggestion for a better way to manage the relationship between my server, my editor and my SVN repository. I know Aptana can access my SVN repository too. Is there an easy way to commit changes from within Aptana when I want to (which means I could take Tourtise out of the equation I guess)?
Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
I think you're doing things a bit strange.
You already have all your information in an SVN repository, so why not take advantage of that?
You keep a working copy on your computer for development and testing. Save and commit your changes to SVN. On your server, do an SVN export (or checkout, with appropriate server rules to block web access to the .svn folders), and you're sweet!
---------------------- ------------ ---------------
| Local Working Copy | <---> | SVN Repo | <---> | Live server |
---------------------- ------------ ---------------
This means you never have to worry about FTP, or have to figure out which files have been changed locally and hence need to be updated.
Not too sure but I found PhpEd better than Zend for this kind of stuff - especially easy save to FTP.
If you want free general purpose IDE (which supports many languages,as well as Php) - then you should give a try to PsPad www.pspad.com. It can handle ftp very well
If you going to do alot of Php programming - then you have several dedicated (but not free) Php IDEs. PhpEd, PhpEdit, Php Designer, WeBuilder - each one of them have their pros and cons , all of them support ftp .
Eclipse has a plugin called RSE allow you to work on remote sources thru ssh,ftp etc.
You can use PDT but I guess it may work on Aptana as well.
I'm using the Zend Studio For Eclipse which has both SVN and RSE built in.
I'm guessing it's the same in PDT (after installing the RSE plugin), you can either work directly in the RSE perspective or add a remove folder to your project (you can do this only after adding connections in the RSE)
BTW, I found the following link that can give you some more options for remote machine:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/TM_and_RSE_FAQ#Working_with_TM_.2F_RSE_as_a_User
I currently have Eclipse installed with the Aptana plug-in so I have access to all of the cool features of Aptana.
You can either install Subclipse or Subversive for Eclipse which would effectively take care of needing TortoiseSVN. See: http://subclipse.tigris.org/install.html
Additionally, you can choose between installing and configuring PDT for Eclipse or using the Aptana PHP plugin (I've used both and I don't find that I necessarily prefer one over the other).
Lastly, both Aptana and Eclipse provide ftp and sftp support:
http://www.aptana.com/plugins
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-857.html
I found Beyond Compare of Scooter Software to be a great tool for such needs.
Beyond Compare is a very valuable file and directory differ and merger for Windows and Linux which also is able to have one of the directories as ftp-link.
Beyond Compare even has a special plugin for source control systems, which unfortunately does not interact with the server, but is able to understand conflicts, for example.