PHP website basics, some clarification please - php

I currently am using PHP to render a dynamic JS+CSS+HTML website via echo statements. The PHP is filling in some of the JS variables.
I want to expand this to include If/Else statements but I have some questions about how PHP interacts with the rendered page
After the site is rendered (all the echo statements have printed) can I still call additional PHP functions? For instance, if I click something can I have that call a PHP function?
Feel free to point me toward PHP tutorials that explain how PHP interacts with the site. Ironically I have done a lot of PHP coding for other tasks I just never thought about it from the ground up

PHP does not interact with the site. PHP's only function is to output text to the browser.
Look at it this way: if you had no PHP, the website would be composed of HTML pages. HTML pages can contain JavaScript and the user can interact with them. The difference with PHP though is that you can generate these HTML pages dynamically (which by association means that you can also generate the JavaScript contained in the HTML pages dynamically). Nothing else has changed.

Basically once the PHP script has finished running and printed (echoed) all the html content to the browswer then it stops running.
Essentially if you are clicking on a web page then that can either call a new page via a form POST or a GET OR maybe javascript can handle the click. And then that Javascript can perhaps perhaps trigger a new request. And that new request can call a PHP script which performs whatever task you want it to.
So if you click on an <a href='action1.php?param1=yes'>Click here</a> link then that will call the script action1.php (with $_REQUEST['param1'] set to 'yes') on the webserver and the webbrowser displays anything it returns. And that new html replaces all the html currently in your browser window.
OR if you have a form:
<form action='action2.php' method='POST'>
<input type='text' name='stuff'>
<input type='submit>
</form>
And you click on submit then again the webserver will be called but this time the script action2.php will be called with $_POST['stuff'] set to whatever is in the text field. And whatever the script returns will be what is displayed in the browser.
Now if you want to click on something in the browser and just change something small on the page or just perform some action on the server then you should probably investigate AJAX handlers and jQuery in particular
Good Luck.

I've learned in coding to never say never....
Aside from standard Ajax, there --IS-- a way to run PHP functions asychronously: xajax In a nutshell, it allows you to call PHP functions directly without reloading the page. A word of warning-- the documentation is weak....
PHP is server side technology as others have mentioned. Getting it to run asynchronously (or after the main page has rended, as the case may be) is only facilitated with some Javascript voodoo, which is what xajax brings to the table. It does a "good enough" job making this possible. I personally have chosen to use Jquery because of the sheer power it brings for UI development. There's tons of options out there to make Ajax calls.
The key to moving your understanding forward is thinking about coding for the FRONT END. When I was beginning my career I was solely a back-end guy, focusing on the standard if/thens/elses and echoing out the relevant code. Once it was on the screen, I was done with it. Moving over to concentrate on the front end requires understanding of the dom structure -- what you'll be using to "grab" elements and then understanding of tech such as javascript to "do stuff" with your data. In a nutshell, it's just a different way of doing what you're used to with a slightly different syntax. Rather than just jumping in feet first to tackle Ajax or this specific task, take some time to familiarize yourself with the basics of traversing the Dom, and perhaps some Javascript or Jquery basics as well. It'll make your job much easier in the long run.

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How do I constantly update a variable in PHP as a user changes input?

I looked for answers to this question, and it seems that most people have a specific problem. I'm looking for a more general answer. I have a text box where a user will type in their name and I would like to have PHP constantly monitor the text box and change the value of the $name as it is typed or edited.
I would also like to do the same with buttons, and as different buttons are clicked, the content of a variable would change to match that which the button represents. Basically, is there a way to get PHP to constantly run on the page and gather information from a user as it is changed?
It seems like it should be possible, but my experience with PHP is limited, and I'm not sure how to begin, so I don't have any code to really show.
This sounds to me like you require an ajax script checking for input changes(eg/ keystroke, on_blur or on_click for your buttons) and sending back to a php script that will update your variables/tables and return the new variables to the ajax script once they are updated.
1 - Ajax checking for changes on the page, and firing off to a php script on server.
2 - Have a method in your js that waits for the action to be completed and load the new variables into the HTML document.
Basically look up Ajax/PHP - Check username availability, Then adapt to your specific needs.
:)
Simple ajax script will be what your after, there are many scripts available for checking username availability --- As for a lone PHP script, this will not be possible as the PHP code has already ran on the server before the html document is rendered to the browser.
My first answer so my wording may not be perfect comment back if i have confused you more.
It seems like it should be possible, but my experience with PHP is limited, and I'm not sure how to begin, so I don't have any code to really show.
Yes, it's possible, but most likely only due to the nature that the browser (e.g. Firefox) and PHP itself are Free Software.
A proof of concept is missing so far, so you really need to start at a very basic level.
You can download these software packages and modify them to your needs, e.g. make the browser interactively corresponding to the DOM and DOM events process PHP scripts that you embed like script tags inside HTML.
But well, as you wrote, you're starting, so I guess, you don't want to start with rewriting the browser and the PHP interpreter, so even if possible, it's perhaps best to stick that interactive part inside the browser to Javascript and some HTTP request / response programming on the server with PHP.

Methods of injecting text

I recently created an image that automatically changes depending on the time thanks to a PHP script. I'm now thinking about doing something but I'm not sure if it's possible.
I do have restrictions. I need this to work on a forum board so it means I have to have all scripting on a different server. I would Google how to do this but I'm not sure what to search hence the broad title. If someone could possibly tell me if it's possible and show a small example to get me on the right track, that'd be appreciated.
What I need to do is print text out onto the page. As I stated above, all the scripting needs to be on a different server as the forum doesn't allow for php and only basic HTML (similar to here). This means I can't use include 'file.php';.
IMHO You have two options
Use HTML iframe element to embeed the external content (just give the external URL and the browser will handle the rest)
Call ajax request from javascript and inject the result into the DOM tree of the board.
Now that Your decision what suits You more.

Add several specification without saving first

I'm working on a editing tool (type of a simple CMS) in PHP/MySQL for a product catalog. I have search the Internet for a solution but I don't even know what to search for. So now my hope is on you guys.
I have a form where you can put all kinds of data like part.no, description an so on. All of this data is saved into a MySql table (items). I also have a table with predefined specifications.
What I want to do, and that I can't find a solution for, is to have a dropdown meny (or similar) and a add button to add a row for each related specifications without saving the whole form each time. I want to save first when all specifications is selected.
So, can I use PHP for this or do I need jQuery/Javascript or similar? I know it's possible, have seen it in OpenCart :-)
I hope someone understands my question. It's hard to explane i a language I'm not fully manage.
Regards
Client-side vs Server-side
Javascript: This sits in the user's browser. So anything you want to move in the user's browser will be done with JavaScript. This is "client-side"
PHP: This site on the server, so takes inpute from the user's browser and gives back a response (generally HTML, but can also be JSON or XML which is read by Javascript.). This is "server-side".
Libraries
jQuery: This is a set of functions written for Javascript to make it easier. So it runs in the user's browser and makes it easier for you to write bits that move on the screen.
You get similar libraries that help you write PHP (commonly called "frameworks") and there are many others for javascript as well.
Where to start
Write your HTML page as you want it to look. Keep it simple for the first time.
Then write some javascript (possibly using jQuery) to move the menu. Google "jquery menu dropdown" or similar and you'll find a solution you cna customise.
Then write some PHP that gives you the HTML you wrote in '1'.
Then decide what's going to happen when you click on a link in the HTML, and repeat the process (write HTML, incorporate Javascript to make it move, write PHP to give HTML)
Then work out which bits of the HTML are common or structured and should come from a database.
Without writing it for you (in which case you'll never learn) best to start one bit at a time and build as your knowledge grows. Bucket loads of examples on the web when youreach a particular problem you need to solve.
After comment "[how to] make it possible to select and add single/multiple specifications (from another table) without saving the whole form each time a specs is added":
Growing with AJAX
What you are asking is AJAX - this is where you get Javascript to talk to the server, and for javascript to move bits on the page based on the results. jQuery is probably the easiest (and probably has best documentation / examples for the ajax, as well as moving the DOM).
Basically: you have an "event" that you trap in JavaScript, example
/// Using jQuery to trap a button click
$().ready( function() {
$("#ButtonID").click( function(e) {
e.preventDefault();
alert('Button Clicked');
});
});
Then you build in an AJAX call inside that event (also check out get or post as the syntax is easier, you just get less control). The AJAX wil send a request to your PHP server, and you can get PHP to return HTML which you can replace/insert using the DOM manipulation functions linked below (e.g. before, html etc) or, when you get more advanced, you'll send back JSON which is a data structure you cna more easily manipulate in JavaScript to stipulate what actions are required.
As above, without actually writing it for you, the best place to start is to read the docs and have a go. Google "jquery AJAX PHP table example" or similar and you'll find an example somewhere.

How to include the static HTML results of a dynamic Javascript page in PHP?

I have a small script that pulls HTML from another site using Javascript.
I want to include that static HTML that gets pulled in a PHP page without any of the Javascript code appearing in the final PHP page that gets displayed.
I tried doing an include of the file with the Javascript code in the PHP page, but it just included the actual Javascript and not the results of the Javascript.
So how would I go about doing this?
You would need to fetch the page, execute the JavaScript in it, then extract the data you wanted from the generated DOM.
The usual approach to this is to use a web automation tool such as Selenium.
You simply can't.
You need to understand that PHP and Javascript operate on different places, PHP on the server and Javascript on the client.
Your only solution is to change the way all this is done and use "file_get_contents(url)" from PHP to get the same content your javascript used to get. This way, there is no javascript anymore and you can still pre-process your page with distant content.
You wouldn't be able to do this directly from within PHP, since you'd need to run Javascript code.
I'd suggest passing the URL (and any required actions such as click event, etc) to a headless browser such as Phantom or Zombie, and capturing the DOM from it once the JS engine has done it's work.
You could also use a real browser, but of course you don't need a UI in your case, and it might actually get in the way of what you're trying to do, so a headless browser might be better.
This sort of thing would normally be used for automated testing of a site (ie Functional Testing).
There is a PHP tool named Mink which can run these sorts of scripts from within a PHP program. It is aimed at writing test scripts, but I would imagine you could use it for your purposes.
Hope that helps.

PHP live updating

I was wondering if there is a way to use php to return the values from a search without having to reload the whole webpage or using iframes or anything like that. I've tried searching for it but I always end up with AJAX and I was wondering if there is a PHP way for it...
I suggest you read up on AJAX and what it is, as it is exactly what you are describing.
What AJAX is generating a request on the browser with javascript, sending the request to a server, generating content with whatever technology you want (be it PHP, .NET, etc.) and returning it to the browser, without the page ever 'reloading'. That's all it is, and that's what you want.
I recommend you check out something like jQuery as it is far away the most popular javascript library. It makes doing AJAX requests a piece of cake.
AJAX is what you're looking for. It means using JavaScript (on the browser) to initiate a request to the server (which may be running PHP, or any other language).
PHP is a server-side technology, and what you describe is mostly a client-side issue.
Every technology that does what you want is going to be very close to Ajax, so I suggest to just take a little time and get yourself going with Ajax. There are plenty of javascript frameworks around that make life easier for you as an Ajax programmer.
PHP is server-side. It can't do anything unless a web request is made (i.e. the user clicks on a link, requesting a page). This is why AJAX exists. The javascript on the client side is able to initiate a web request in the background and decide what to do with the response.
Check out jQuery. It makes AJAX a snap:
http://docs.jquery.com/Ajax
Yes I did the same using PHp and Mysql. What you can do is first create a PHP search page1 with a text box and write down some jQuery function for the onkeyup event of text box. Pass the value of the Text Box to the PHP search page2 and display its data in another blank DIV tag on your search page1. Let me know if you were able to get the concept, else I will forward you some link for that. infact I found a youtube video for this. Its not a difficult task.

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