PHP problem with start simultaneous scripts - php

I'd like to use ajax to start asynchronously one php script. I try to use another ajax request to get information about progress of it... but.
I can't. Second request will wait for the first one. Is it cause by the nature of PHP? I guess that it can be also caused by handling session in both of scripts - Am I right?
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Due to asks - I use opera web browser. I will check also firefox with firebug as you recommended to me.

Once you have created an xhtml-request it can be that you need another one. For this usecase there are some libraries avalaible.

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Ajax -PHP in use case

is there any "in-use"-case for the specific PHP-file in AJAX?
For example: On my website there are numerous AJAX scripts running simultanious. The PHP script is already in use for a AJAX script. What does it mean for the other AJAX scripts? Do they connect to a new instance of the PHP script or what? Or am I completely wrong?
As #mudasobwa said PHP is (most of the times) stateless. It's not really PHP which is stateles, but it is HTTP which is a stateless protocol.
So that means every request is completely seperate from each other and they don't know anything about the request before or after. That's why there are things like SESSION, POST and GET to send or share information accross multiple PHP (HTTP) requests.
Also note this is the reason why you need to do things like authentication, database connection and query data every request.
As already mention in comments each request is separate.
However, if you are using sessions, in the php files requested by ajax, and the same request takes some time to process, your second ajax might hang, if this is trying to access the same session. This is due to the fact that php will lock your session file until it knows that the locking thread is done with it.
What you can do (if you are using session), is to close the session file by calling "session_write_close", when you know that you don't need to update the session.
http://php.net/session_write_close

persistent php connection?

Is it possible to have a php script pause at a certain point wait for an ajax response, then continue executing?
If not, what is the most appropriate way to store the current state of a script (all defined variables ect) untill it in invoked again?
Making it wait for an ajax response which could never come sounds like a very bad plan (apart from being impossible due to the nature of http as a stateless protocol).
What's wrong with using session to persist user data (you can store objects in the session)? It won't serialize the whole state automagically though.
Not how php works, or ajax really either. Each request is independent. You can use a session.
I think you are looking for Cometlink text - which is a form of reverse Ajax which holds the connection open indefinitely - although I don't think you'd have a PHP script just wait for it...
If you want to get in your php script response that you would normally access via ajax then just use curl functions. Curl will wait for the response to arrive.

Firefox reloads page, but no Location header sent or JS used

In one app, I have an administrative backend written in PHP, which allows to browse internal data structures or change settings.
One controller queries a DB backend checks against another reference DB using SOAP and returns a list of missing values. Takes a few seconds to complete.
The PHP code doesn't send a HTTP Location header, nor does the client-side kicks off JS code.
If I submit a request, the controller starts, finishes and automatically (!) starts again. The second start terminates normally - emits a report too. The behaviour happens deterministic each time I call the script.
After hours of debugging, I finally made the PHP code send a report back to me, which includes emitted HTML-Code. As a result, I receive two reports. But again, I receive two emails. The restart of the script happens instantly.
I know, this isn't much I can supply, but might this be some Firefox bug?
Other browsers run the PHP script once and only once.
Update 2012-01-09
The problem persists. Still, firefox reloads the page, no other browser does.
No method, especially tracing HTTP-request / -reply did show anything special.
You could use the "Live HTTP headers" Firefox plugin to monitor what's going on. The page is obviously loaded 2 times, this will help you determine how you end up with something like this.
You might want to use a proxy to see how the traffic is different across browsers (I use http://www.fiddler2.com/ it's a Microsoft project but works with all browsers).
Same Problem here. I think i know whats causing the problem. I echo some debugging stuff before the DOCTYPE/HTML-Tag. And maybe FF thinks there is something wrong with the page, so it reloads it once more.
That sounds crazy, but if i don't echo anything before html it works fine.
Are you sending the correct character set headers? If Firefox thinks it started decoding the page with the wrong character set, it will reload the page to fix it.

PHP and AJAX, sending new PHP info to page for AJAX to receive, is this possible?

I'm searching on how to do this but my searches aren't turning up things that are talking about what I'm trying to do so maybe I'm not searching with the right terms or this isn't possible, but figured I would ask here for help.. this is what I am trying to do..
I have PHP scripts that are called asyncrhonously, so it is called and it just runs, the calling PHP doesn't wait for a response, so it can go on to do other stuff / free things up so another asynch php process can be run.
I would still like to get back a result from these "zombie" scripts or whatever you want to call them, however the only way I can think of doing it that I know for sure will work is something like make this "zombie" script save its final output to a database and then have my AJAX UI make periodic requests to this database to check if the needed value exists in the place it is supposed to.. which would allow it to get the output from the zombie PHP script..
I am thinking it would be better if somehow this zombie script could do a sort of page refresh to the AJAX ui but the ajax ui would intercept this and just take the received data from PHP and use it as needed (such as display in a DIV for user to see).. basically I'm wondering if you can make PHP force this kind of thing rather than needing to involve a database in this and making AJAX do repeated requests to check for a specific value that way..
Thanks for any advice
No, a background script has no way to influence the client's front-end because it has no connection to it.
Starting a background script, having the script write status data into a shared space - be it a database or a memcache or a similar solution - and polling the status through Ajax is usually indeed the best way to go.
One alternative may be Comet. It's a technique where a connection is kept open over a long time, and updated actively from the server side (instead of frequent client-side Ajax polling). I have no practical experience with this but I imagine it most probably needs server side tweaking to be doable in PHP - it's not the best platform for long-running stuff. See this question for some approaches.

On form submit background function php running

I am looking for a way to start a function on form submit that would not leave the browser window waiting for the result.
Example:
User fills in the form and press submit, the data from the form via javascript goes to the database and a function in php that will take several seconds will start but I dont want the user to be left waiting for the end of that function. I would like to be able to take him to another page and leave the function doing its thing server side.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Thanks for all the replies...
I got the ajax part. But I cannot call ajax and have the browser move to another page.
This is what I wanted.
-User fills form and submits
-Result from the form passed to database
-long annoying process function starts
-user carries on visiting the rest of the site, independent of the status on the "long annoying process function"
By the way and before someone suggests it. No, it cannot be done by cron job
Use AJAX to call the php script, and at the top of the script turn on ignore_ user_ abort.
ignore_user_abort(true);
That way if they navigate away from the page the script will continue running in the backround. You can also use
set_time_limit(0);
to set a time limit, useful if you know your script will take a while to complete.
The most common method is:
exec("$COMMAND > /dev/null 2>&1 &");
Ah, ok, well you're essentially asking therefore, does PHP support threading, and the general answer is no... however...
there are some tricks you can perform to mimick this behaviour, one of which is highlighted above and involves forking out to a separate process on the server, this can be acheived in a number of ways, including the;
exec()
method. You also may want to look here;
PHP threading
I have also seen people try to force a flush of the output buffer halfway through the script, attempting to force the response back to the client, I dont know how successful this approach is, but maybe someone else will have some information on that one.
This is exactly what AJAX (shorthand for asynchronous JavaScript + XML) is for;
AJAX Information
It allows you to code using client side code, and send asynchronous requests to your server, such that the user's browser is not interuppted by an entire page request.
There is alot of information relating to AJAX out there on the web, so take a deep breath and get googling!
Sounds like you want to use some of the features AJAX (Asynchronous Javascript and XML - google) have to offer.
Basically, you would have a page with content. When a user clicks a button, javascript would be used to POST data to the server and begin processing. Simultaneously, that javascript might load a page from the server and then display it (eg, load data, and then replace the contents of a DIV with that new page.)
This kind of thing is the premise behind AJAX, which you see everywhere when you have a web page doing multiple things simultaneously.
Worth noting: This doesn't mean that the script is running "in the background on the server." Your web browser is still maintaining a connection with the web server - which means that the code is running in the "background" on the client's side. And by "background" we really mean "processing the HTTP request in parallel with other HTTP requests to give the feel of a 'background' running process"

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