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So I'm using an app that stores images heavily in the DB. What's your outlook on this? I'm more of a type to store the location in the filesystem, than store it directly in the DB.
What do you think are the pros/cons?
I'm in charge of some applications that manage many TB of images. We've found that storing file paths in the database to be best.
There are a couple of issues:
database storage is usually more expensive than file system storage
you can super-accelerate file system access with standard off the shelf products
for example, many web servers use the operating system's sendfile() system call to asynchronously send a file directly from the file system to the network interface. Images stored in a database don't benefit from this optimization.
things like web servers, etc, need no special coding or processing to access images in the file system
databases win out where transactional integrity between the image and metadata are important.
it is more complex to manage integrity between db metadata and file system data
it is difficult (within the context of a web application) to guarantee data has been flushed to disk on the filesystem
As with most issues, it's not as simple as it sounds. There are cases where it would make sense to store the images in the database.
You are storing images that are
changing dynamically, say invoices and you wanted
to get an invoice as it was on 1 Jan
2007?
The government wants you to maintain 6 years of history
Images stored in the database do not require a different backup strategy. Images stored on filesystem do
It is easier to control access to the images if they are in a database. Idle admins can access any folder on disk. It takes a really determined admin to go snooping in a database to extract the images
On the other hand there are problems associated
Require additional code to extract
and stream the images
Latency may be
slower than direct file access
Heavier load on the database server
File store. Facebook engineers had a great talk about it. One take away was to know the practical limit of files in a directory.
Needle in a Haystack: Efficient Storage of Billions of Photos
This might be a bit of a long shot, but if you're using (or planning on using) SQL Server 2008 I'd recommend having a look at the new FileStream data type.
FileStream solves most of the problems around storing the files in the DB:
The Blobs are actually stored as files in a folder.
The Blobs can be accessed using either a database connection or over the filesystem.
Backups are integrated.
Migration "just works".
However SQL's "Transparent Data Encryption" does not encrypt FileStream objects, so if that is a consideration, you may be better off just storing them as varbinary.
From the MSDN Article:
Transact-SQL statements can insert, update, query, search, and back up FILESTREAM data. Win32 file system interfaces provide streaming access to the data.
FILESTREAM uses the NT system cache for caching file data. This helps reduce any effect that FILESTREAM data might have on Database Engine performance. The SQL Server buffer pool is not used; therefore, this memory is available for query processing.
File paths in the DB is definitely the way to go - I've heard story after story from customers with TB of images that it became a nightmare trying to store any significant amount of images in a DB - the performance hit alone is too much.
In my experience, sometimes the simplest solution is to name the images according to the primary key. So it's easy to find the image that belongs to a particular record, and vice versa. But at the same time you're not storing anything about the image in the database.
The trick here is to not become a zealot.
One thing to note here is that no one in the pro file system camp has listed a particular file system. Does this mean that everything from FAT16 to ZFS handily beats every database?
No.
The truth is that many databases beat many files systems, even when we're only talking about raw speed.
The correct course of action is to make the right decision for your precise scenario, and to do that, you'll need some numbers and some use case estimates.
In places where you MUST guarantee referential integrity and ACID compliance, storing images in the database is required.
You cannot transactionaly guarantee that the image and the meta-data about that image stored in the database refer to the same file. In other words, it is impossible to guarantee that the file on the filesystem is only ever altered at the same time and in the same transaction as the metadata.
As others have said SQL 2008 comes with a Filestream type that allows you to store a filename or identifier as a pointer in the db and automatically stores the image on your filesystem which is a great scenario.
If you're on an older database, then I'd say that if you're storing it as blob data, then you're really not going to get anything out of the database in the way of searching features, so it's probably best to store an address on a filesystem, and store the image that way.
That way you also save space on your filesystem, as you are only going to save the exact amount of space, or even compacted space on the filesystem.
Also, you could decide to save with some structure or elements that allow you to browse the raw images in your filesystem without any db hits, or transfer the files in bulk to another system, hard drive, S3 or another scenario - updating the location in your program, but keep the structure, again without much of a hit trying to bring the images out of your db when trying to increase storage.
Probably, it would also allow you to throw some caching element, based on commonly hit image urls into your web engine/program, so you're saving yourself there as well.
Small static images (not more than a couple of megs) that are not frequently edited, should be stored in the database. This method has several benefits including easier portability (images are transferred with the database), easier backup/restore (images are backed up with the database) and better scalability (a file system folder with thousands of little thumbnail files sounds like a scalability nightmare to me).
Serving up images from a database is easy, just implement an http handler that serves the byte array returned from the DB server as a binary stream.
Here's an interesting white paper on the topic.
To BLOB or Not To BLOB: Large Object Storage in a Database or a Filesystem
The answer is "It depends." Certainly it would depend upon the database server and its approach to blob storage. It also depends on the type of data being stored in blobs, as well as how that data is to be accessed.
Smaller sized files can be efficiently stored and delivered using the database as the storage mechanism. Larger files would probably be best stored using the file system, especially if they will be modified/updated often. (blob fragmentation becomes an issue in regards to performance.)
Here's an additional point to keep in mind. One of the reasons supporting the use of a database to store the blobs is ACID compliance. However, the approach that the testers used in the white paper, (Bulk Logged option of SQL Server,) which doubled SQL Server throughput, effectively changed the 'D' in ACID to a 'd,' as the blob data was not logged with the initial writes for the transaction. Therefore, if full ACID compliance is an important requirement for your system, halve the SQL Server throughput figures for database writes when comparing file I/O to database blob I/O.
One thing that I haven't seen anyone mention yet but is definitely worth noting is that there are issues associated with storing large amounts of images in most filesystems too. For example if you take the approach mentioned above and name each image file after the primary key, on most filesystems you will run into issues if you try to put all of the images in one big directory once you reach a very large number of images (e.g. in the hundreds of thousands or millions).
Once common solution to this is to hash them out into a balanced tree of subdirectories.
Something nobody has mentioned is that the DB guarantees atomic actions, transactional integrity and deals with concurrency. Even referentially integrity is out of the window with a filesystem - so how do you know your file names are really still correct?
If you have your images in a file-system and someone is reading the file as you're writing a new version or even deleting the file - what happens?
We use blobs because they're easier to manage (backup, replication, transfer) too. They work well for us.
The problem with storing only filepaths to images in a database is that the database's integrity can no longer be forced.
If the actual image pointed to by the filepath becomes unavailable, the database unwittingly has an integrity error.
Given that the images are the actual data being sought after, and that they can be managed easier (the images won't suddenly disappear) in one integrated database rather than having to interface with some kind of filesystem (if the filesystem is independently accessed, the images MIGHT suddenly "disappear"), I'd go for storing them directly as a BLOB or such.
At a company where I used to work we stored 155 million images in an Oracle 8i (then 9i) database. 7.5TB worth.
Normally, I'm storngly against taking the most expensive and hardest to scale part of your infrastructure (the database) and putting all load into it. On the other hand: It greatly simplifies backup strategy, especially when you have multiple web servers and need to somehow keep the data synchronized.
Like most other things, It depends on the expected size and Budget.
We have implemented a document imaging system that stores all it's images in SQL2005 blob fields. There are several hundred GB at the moment and we are seeing excellent response times and little or no performance degradation. In addition, fr regulatory compliance, we have a middleware layer that archives newly posted documents to an optical jukebox system which exposes them as a standard NTFS file system.
We've been very pleased with the results, particularly with respect to:
Ease of Replication and Backup
Ability to easily implement a document versioning system
If this is web-based application then there could be advantages to storing the images on a third-party storage delivery network, such as Amazon's S3 or the Nirvanix platform.
Assumption: Application is web enabled/web based
I'm surprised no one has really mentioned this ... delegate it out to others who are specialists -> use a 3rd party image/file hosting provider.
Store your files on a paid online service like
Amazon S3
Moso Cloud Storage
Another StackOverflow threads talking about this here.
This thread explains why you should use a 3rd party hosting provider.
It's so worth it. They store it efficiently. No bandwith getting uploaded from your servers to client requests, etc.
If you're not on SQL Server 2008 and you have some solid reasons for putting specific image files in the database, then you could take the "both" approach and use the file system as a temporary cache and use the database as the master repository.
For example, your business logic can check if an image file exists on disc before serving it up, retrieving from the database when necessary. This buys you the capability of multiple web servers and fewer sync issues.
I'm not sure how much of a "real world" example this is, but I currently have an application out there that stores details for a trading card game, including the images for the cards. Granted the record count for the database is only 2851 records to date, but given the fact that certain cards have are released multiple times and have alternate artwork, it was actually more efficient sizewise to scan the "primary square" of the artwork and then dynamically generate the border and miscellaneous effects for the card when requested.
The original creator of this image library created a data access class that renders the image based on the request, and it does it quite fast for viewing and individual card.
This also eases deployment/updates when new cards are released, instead of zipping up an entire folder of images and sending those down the pipe and ensuring the proper folder structure is created, I simply update the database and have the user download it again. This currently sizes up to 56MB, which isn't great, but I'm working on an incremental update feature for future releases. In addition, there is a "no images" version of the application that allows those over dial-up to get the application without the download delay.
This solution has worked great to date since the application itself is targeted as a single instance on the desktop. There is a web site where all of this data is archived for online access, but I would in no way use the same solution for this. I agree the file access would be preferable because it would scale better to the frequency and volume of requests being made for the images.
Hopefully this isn't too much babble, but I saw the topic and wanted to provide some my insights from a relatively successful small/medium scale application.
SQL Server 2008 offers a solution that has the best of both worlds : The filestream data type.
Manage it like a regular table and have the performance of the file system.
It depends on the number of images you are going to store and also their sizes. I have used databases to store images in the past and my experience has been fairly good.
IMO, Pros of using database to store images are,
A. You don't need FS structure to hold your images
B. Database indexes perform better than FS trees when more number of items are to be stored
C. Smartly tuned database perform good job at caching the query results
D. Backups are simple. It also works well if you have replication set up and content is delivered from a server near to user. In such cases, explicit synchronization is not required.
If your images are going to be small (say < 64k) and the storage engine of your db supports inline (in record) BLOBs, it improves performance further as no indirection is required (Locality of reference is achieved).
Storing images may be a bad idea when you are dealing with small number of huge sized images. Another problem with storing images in db is that, metadata like creation, modification dates must handled by your application.
I have recently created a PHP/MySQL app which stores PDFs/Word files in a MySQL table (as big as 40MB per file so far).
Pros:
Uploaded files are replicated to backup server along with everything else, no separate backup strategy is needed (peace of mind).
Setting up the web server is slightly simpler because I don't need to have an uploads/ folder and tell all my applications where it is.
I get to use transactions for edits to improve data integrity - I don't have to worry about orphaned and missing files
Cons:
mysqldump now takes a looooong time because there is 500MB of file data in one of the tables.
Overall not very memory/cpu efficient when compared to filesystem
I'd call my implementation a success, it takes care of backup requirements and simplifies the layout of the project. The performance is fine for the 20-30 people who use the app.
Im my experience I had to manage both situations: images stored in database and images on the file system with path stored in db.
The first solution, images in database, is somewhat "cleaner" as your data access layer will have to deal only with database objects; but this is good only when you have to deal with low numbers.
Obviously database access performance when you deal with binary large objects is degrading, and the database dimensions will grow a lot, causing again performance loss... and normally database space is much more expensive than file system space.
On the other hand having large binary objects stored in file system will cause you to have backup plans that have to consider both database and file system, and this can be an issue for some systems.
Another reason to go for file system is when you have to share your images data (or sounds, video, whatever) with third party access: in this days I'm developing a web app that uses images that have to be accessed from "outside" my web farm in such a way that a database access to retrieve binary data is simply impossible. So sometimes there are also design considerations that will drive you to a choice.
Consider also, when making this choice, if you have to deal with permission and authentication when accessing binary objects: these requisites normally can be solved in an easier way when data are stored in db.
I once worked on an image processing application. We stored the uploaded images in a directory that was something like /images/[today's date]/[id number]. But we also extracted the metadata (exif data) from the images and stored that in the database, along with a timestamp and such.
In a previous project i stored images on the filesystem, and that caused a lot of headaches with backups, replication, and the filesystem getting out of sync with the database.
In my latest project i'm storing images in the database, and caching them on the filesystem, and it works really well. I've had no problems so far.
Second the recommendation on file paths. I've worked on a couple of projects that needed to manage large-ish asset collections, and any attempts to store things directly in the DB resulted in pain and frustration long-term.
The only real "pro" I can think of regarding storing them in the DB is the potential for easy of individual image assets. If there are no file paths to use, and all images are streamed straight out of the DB, there's no danger of a user finding files they shouldn't have access to.
That seems like it would be better solved with an intermediary script pulling data from a web-inaccessible file store, though. So the DB storage isn't REALLY necessary.
The word on the street is that unless you are a database vendor trying to prove that your database can do it (like, let's say Microsoft boasting about Terraserver storing a bajillion images in SQL Server) it's not a very good idea. When the alternative - storing images on file servers and paths in the database is so much easier, why bother? Blob fields are kind of like the off-road capabilities of SUVs - most people don't use them, those who do usually get in trouble, and then there are those who do, but only for the fun of it.
Storing an image in the database still means that the image data ends up somewhere in the file system but obscured so that you cannot access it directly.
+ves:
database integrity
its easy to manage since you don't have to worry about keeping the filesystem in sync when an image is added or deleted
-ves:
performance penalty -- a database lookup is usually slower that a filesystem lookup
you cannot edit the image directly (crop, resize)
Both methods are common and practiced. Have a look at the advantages and disadvantages. Either way, you'll have to think about how to overcome the disadvantages. Storing in database usually means tweaking database parameters and implement some kind of caching. Using filesystem requires you to find some way of keeping filesystem+database in sync.
So I am working on this website where people can post articles. My colleague suggested storing all the meta-data of an article (user, title, dates etc) in a table and the actual article body as a file in the server.
A data structure would look like:
post_id post_user_id post_title post_body post_date etc
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 1 My First Post 1_1.txt 2014-07-07 ...
2 1 My First Post 2_1.txt 2014-07-07 ...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now we would get the record of the post and then locate where it is by
$post_id . "_" . $post_user_id . ".txt";
He says that this will reduce the size of the tables and on the long run make it faster to access. I am not sure about this and wanted to ask if there are any issues in this design.
The first risk that pops into my mind is data corruption. Following the design, you are splitting the information into two fragments, even though both pieces are dependant from one another :
A file has to exist for each metadata entry (or you'll end up with not found errors for entries supposed to exist).
A metadata entry has to exist for each file (or you'll end up with garbage).
Using the database only has one big advantage : it is very probably relational. This means that you actually can set up rules to prevent the two scenarios above to occur (you could use an SQL CASCADE DELETE for instance, or put every piece of information in one table). Keeping these relations between two data backends is going to be a tricky thing to setup.
Another important thing to remember : data stored in a SQL database isn't sent to a magical place far from your drive. When you add an entry into your database, you write to your database files. For instance, those files are stored in /var/lib/mysql for MySQL engines. Writing to other files does not make that much of a difference...
Next thing : time. Accessing a database is fast once it's opened, all it takes is query processing. Accessing files (and that is, once per article) may be heavier : files need to be opened (including privileges checks, ...), read (line-by-line according to your buffer size) and closed. Of course, you can add to that all the programming it would take to link those files to their metadata...
To me, this design adds unecessary complexity to the application. You could store everything in the database, centralise. You'll use pretty much the same amount of disk space in both cases, yet looking-up/accessing each article file separately (while keeping it connected with its DB metadata) will certainly waste some time.
Design for simplicity; add complexity only where you must. (Eric S. Raymond)
This could look like a good idea is those posts are NEVER edited. Access to a file could take a while, and if your user wants to edit a lot of times his post, storing the content in a file is not a great idea. SQL support well large text values (as WYSIWYG text), dont be afraid to store them in your Post table.
Additionally, your filesystem will take ways more time to read and writes datas stored in files than in database.
Everything will depend of the number of post you want to store, and if you users can edit or not their posts.
I would agree, in a production environment it is generally recommended to let the file system keep track of files and the database to hold on to the metadata.
However, I have mostly heard this philosophy be applicable to BLOG types and Images. Because even large articles are relatively small, a TEXT data type can suffice and even make it easier to edit, draw from, and search as needed. \
(hence I agree with Rémi Delhaye, who answered this just as I was writing this post)
Filesystem is much more likely to have higher latency and files can 'go missing' where a database record is less likely to.
If the contents of the field is too large in the case of SQL Server then you could look at the FileStream API in newer versions.
Really though, either approach is valid in my opinion. With a file you don't have to worry about the database mangling the content if you make a mistake during escaping or something.
Beware if you're writing your code on a case-insensitive filesystem and running on a case-sensitive one in production- filename case matters so it can be another way to lose access to your files later on or unexpectedly once the application is deployed.
I am implementing an image upload system in PHP, The following are required:
Have categories
Allow users to comment on images
Allow rating of images
For that, I have 2 approaches in mind:
1. Implement the categorization by folders
Each category will have its own folder, and PHP will detect categories via those folders.
Pros
Structured look, easily locatable images.
Use of native PHP functions to manipulate and collect information about folders and files
Cons
Multiple categorization is a pain
Need to save the full path in the database
2. Implement the categorization by database
Each image in the database will have a catID (or multiple catIDs), and PHP will query the database to get the images
Pros
Easily implemented multi-categories
Only image name is saved
Cons
Seems more messy
Need to query the database a lot.
Which do you think is better? Or is there a third, completely different, approach that I'm missing?
Just a note, I don't need code, I can implement that myself, I'm looking to find what to implement.
Would love to hear from you.
I believe that the second option is better, a DB is giving you much more flexibility, and I think better performance then file system, if you set the right indexes.
In the filesystem approach you are limited to only 1 category per image, when in the DB you can set multiple categories on an image.
The con that Db is more messy, sorry I can't find a reason way in the db it will be more messy, maybe you mean that the files are not organized on the file system, but you still need to organize the files on the file system and divide them to multiple folders for better performance, and if you want to get all the images that have been uploaded you query the db for all of them, which will be much faster then ls on all the categories folders.
In organize the files in the file system when using the DB approach I mean that you need to divide them to several folders, actually it depends on how you predict the upload of the images will be:
If you predict that the upload will be spread on long time then I think that better to put the files in directories per range on time(day, week, month) example if I upload an image now it will go to
"/web_path/uploaded_photos/week4_2012/[some_generated_string].jpg"
If you don't know how to predict the uploads, then I suggest you will divide the files into folders on something generic like the first two letters in MD5 hash on the image name, for example if my file name is "photo_2012.jpg" the hash will be "c02d73bb3219be105159ac8e38ebdac2" so the path in the files system will be "/web_path/uploaded_photos/c/0/[some_generated_string].jpg"
The second con that need to query the DB a lot is not quite true, cause you will need the same amount of queries on the file system which are far more slower.
Good luck.
PS
Don't you forget to generate a new file name to any image that have been uploaded so there will be no collisions in different users uploaded same image name, or the same user.
I'd be inclined to go with the database approach. You list the need to query the database a lot as a con, but that's what databases are built for. As you pointed out yourself, a hierarchical structure has serious limitations when it comes to items that fall into more than one category, and while you can use native PHP functions to navigate the tree, would that really be quicker or more efficient than running SQL queries?
Naturally the actual file data needs to go somewhere, and BLOBS are problematic to put it mildly, so I'd store the actual files in the filesystem, but all the data about the images (the metadata) would be better off in a database. The added flexibility the database gives you is worth the work involved.
The second solution (database) is actually a TAG/LABEL system of categorizing data.
And that is the way to go, biggest examples being Gmail and Stackoverflow.
Only thing you need to be careful about is how to model tags. If the tags are not normalized properly, querying from database becomes expensive.
Use folders only to make file storage reliable, storing certain amount of files per folder, i.e.
/b/e/beach001.jpg
as for your dilemma, it is not a question at all.
From your conditions you can say it yourself that database is the only solution.
Since you need a database to store comments and ratings, you should store categories in database as well. Sometime later you may also want to store image captions and description; database allows you to do that. And I would not worry about querying the database a lot.
Whether to store the image itself in database or filesystem is a separate issue which is discussed here.
Note about storing images in filesystem: do not store thousands of images in a single directory; it could cause performance issues for the OS. Instead invent a way to organize images in sub directories. You can group them by dates, filenames, randomly etc. Some conventions:
upload date: month/year
/uploaded_images
/2010/01
/2010/02
upload date: month-year
/uploaded_images
/2010-01
/2010-02
md5 hash of image name: first character
/uploaded_images
/0/
/1/
.
.
.
/e/
/f/
batches of thousands
/uploaded_images
/00001000/
/00002000/
/00003000/
I eventually went with the best answer of this question: Effeciently storing user uploaded images on the file system.
It works like a charm. Thanks for all of the answers!
I have at my disposal PHP, MySQL and a Linux server.
The site I'm creating for a client should have a back-end manageable photo gallery.
I am planning to create it fully in MySQL, meaning I would have a table containing a mediumblob that would contain the binary data of the picture. This would allow me to have everything at one spot, not having to rely on the chance that the client wouldn't accidentally remove an image from the gallery directory without updating the database and so forth.
The alternative, of course, would be to have the images independent of the MySQL database, and only save the image paths.
What I'm posting a question here for is to ask you experts if there are any potholes in this method I'm not seeing. I have never tried this method of creating a gallery before. For instance, is it considered bad practice retrieving large amounts of data from MySQL when file-system storage is possible?
What are your thoughts?
(I will mark correct the reply that erases all doubt about this case from my mind)
Personally, I wouldn't recommend you reinvent that wheel... especially if you want your clients/users to be updating this data. Far better to look to an already existing solution. There are tons of them out there. Probably the most robust is Gallery
As for your actual question, there are lots of reasons not to store binary files in the db. (And only a few that I know about to do so.) Size is a definite consideration. Many hosting providers have a much smaller size limit to your database than filesystem limit. You would be tying them to providers that allow enormous database filesizes. Additionally, apache is VERY good at serving static files to the client. PHP passing those binary files through is going to be WAY slower. Your site's speed would definitely suffer.
I would not store images in the database since you probably want to enable client and/or server side caching for those images. Storing images in the DB will not do any good for this. Store the path of the image in the database and not the file itself.
I wouldn't store images in the database, grows you database way too big. I would make references to the images on the file system. Database reserved for meta data on the images in question.
Also curious why you don't just opt for an open source image gallery to start with like ZenPhoto? And build on that for the customer?
I have built a small web application in PHP where users must first log in. Once they have logged in, I intend on showing a small thumbnail as part of their "profile".
I will have to ensure the image is below a particular size to conserve space, or ensure it is a particular resolution, or both, or even perhaps use something like image magick to scale it down.
Not sure what the best approach for that is yet, any ideas welcome.
Also, I have been trying to work out if it is better to store the image in the users table of MySQL as a blob, or maybe a separate images table with a unique id, and just store the appropriate image id in the users table, or simply save the uploaded file on the server (via an upload page as well) and save the file as theUsersUniqueUsername.jpg.
Best option?
I found a tutorial on saving images to mysql here:
http://www.phpriot.com/articles/images-in-mysql
I am only a hobby programmer, and haven't ever done anything like this before, so examples, and/or a lot of detail is greatly appreciated.
Always depends of context, but usually, I store a user image on the filesystem in a folder called /content/user/{user_id}.jpg and try to bother the database as little as possible.
I would recommend storing the image as a file and then have the file URI in the database. If you store all the images in the database, you might have some problems with scaling at a later date.
Check out this answer too:
Microsoft's advice for SQL Server used to be, for speed and size, store images in the file system, with links in the database. I think they've softened their preference a bit, but I still consider it a better idea certainly for size, since it will take up no space in the database.
The overhead using BLOB is a lot less than most people would have you believe, especially if you set it up right. If you use a separate server just running the DB to store binary files then you can in fact use no file-system at all and avoid any overhead from the file-system
That said the easiest/best way unless you have a couple of servers to yourself is storing them in the filesystem
Do not store the absolute URL of the file in your DB, just the unique part (and possibly a folder or two), e.g. 2009/uniqueImageName.jpg or just uniqueImageName.jpg.
Then in your pages just add the host and other folders onto the front, that way you have some flexibility in moving your images - all you'll need to change is a line or two in your PHP/ASP.NET page.
There is no need to store outside the document root for security - a .htaccess file with DENY FROM ALL will work the same and provide more flexibility
No need to 'shunt' images so much for security, just have a getImage.php page or something, and then instead of inserting the actual URL in the src of the image, use something like getImage.php?file=uniqueImageName.jpg.
Then the getImage.php file can check if the user is authorised and grab the image (or not).
Use a name which is guaranteed to be unique (preferably an integer i.e. primary key) when storing, some file-system (i.e. Windows) are case-insensitive, so JoeBloggs.jpg and joebloggs.jpg are unique for the database, but not for the file-system so one will overwrite another.
Use a separate table for the images, and store the primary key of the image in the users table. If you ever want to add more fields or make changes in future it will be easier - it's also good practice.
If you are worried about SEO and things like that, store the image's original file name in another field when you are uploading, you can then use this in your output (such as in the alt tag).
Challenging the Conventional Wisdom!
Of course it is context dependent, but I have a very large application with thousands of images and documents stored as BLOBS in a MySQL database (average size=2MB) and the application runs fine on a server with 256MB of memory. The secret is correct database structure. Always keep two separate tables, one of which stores the basic information about the file, and the other table should just contain the blob plus a primary key for accessing it. All basic queries will be run against the details table, and the other table is only access when the file is actually needed, and it is accessed using an indexed key so performance is extremely good.
The advantages of storing files in the database are multiple:
Much easier backup systems are required, as you do not need to back up the file system
Controlling file security is much easier as you can validate before releasing the binary (yes, you can store the file in a non-public directory and have a script read and regurgitate the file, but performance will not be noticeably faster.
(Similar to #1) It cleanly separates "user content" and "system content", making migrations and cloning easier.
Easier to manage files, track/store version changes, etc, as you need fewer script modifications to add version controls in.
If performance is a big issue and security and backups aren't (or if you have a good fs backup system) then you can store it the the FS, but even then I often store files (in the case of images) in the DB and building a caching script that writes the image to a cache folder after the first time it's used (yes, this uses more HD space, but that is almost never a limiting factor).
Anyway, obviously FS works well in many instances, but I personally find DB management much easier and more flexible, and if written well the performance penalties are extremely small.
We created a shop that stored images in the DB. It worked great during development but once we tested it on the production servers the page load time was far too high, and it added unneccessary load to the DB servers.
While it seems attractive to store binary files in the DB, fetching and manipulating them adds extra complexity that can be avoided by just keeping files on the file system and storing paths / metadata in the DB.
This is one of those eternal debates, with excellent arguments on both sides, but for my money I would keep images away from the DB.
I recently saw this tip's list: http://www.ajaxline.com/32-tips-to-speed-up-your-mysql-queries
Tip 17:
For your web application, images and other binary assets should normally be stored as files. That is, store only a reference to the file rather than the file itself in the database.
So just save the file path to the image :)
I have implemented both solutions (file system and database-persisted images) in previous projects. In my opinion, you should store images in your database. Here's why:
File system storage is more complicated when your app servers are clustered. You have to have shared storage. Even if your current environment is not clustered, this makes it more difficult to scale up when you need to.
You should be using a CDN for your static content anyways, and set your app up as the origin. This means that your app will only be hit once for a given image, then it will be cached on the CDN. CloudFront is dirt cheap and simple to set up...there's no reason not to use it. Save your bandwidth for your dynamic content.
It's much quicker (and thus cheaper) to develop database persisted images
You get referential integrity with database persisted images. If you're storing images on the file system, you will inevitably have orphan files with no matching database records, or you'll have database records with broken file links. This WILL happen...it's just a matter of time. You'll have to write something to clean these up.
Anyways, my two cents.
What's the blob datatype for anyway, if not for storing files?
If your application involves authorisation prior to accessing the files, the changes are that you're a) storing the files outside of DOCUMENT_ROOT (so they can't be accessed directly; and possibly b) sending the entire contents of the files through the application (of course, maybe you're doing some sort of temporarilly-move-to-hashed-but-publicly-accessible-filename thing). So the memory overhead is there anyway, and you might as well be retrieving the data from the database.
If you must store files in a filesystem, do as Andreas suggested above, and name them using something you already know (i.e. the primary key of the relevant table).
I think that most database engines are so advanced already that storing BLOB's of data does not produce any disadvantages (bloated db etc). One advantage is that you don't have any broken links when the image is in the database already. That being said, I have myself always done so that I store the file on disk and give the URI to the database. It depends on the usage. It may be easier to handle img-in-db if the page is very dynamic and changes often - no namespace -problems. I have to say that it ends down to what you prefer.
I would suggest you do not store the image in your db. Instead since every user will be having a unique id associated with his/her profile in the db, use that id to store the image physically on the server.
e.g. if a user has id 23, you can store an image in www.yourname.com/users/profile_images/23.jpg. Then to display, you can check if the image exists, and display it accordingly else display your generic icon.
As the others suggested:
Store the images in the filesystem
Do not bother to store the filename, just use the user id (or anything else that "you already know")
Put static data on a different server (even if you just use "static.yourdomain.com" as an alias to your normal server)
Why ?
The bigger your database gets the slower it will get.
Storing your image in the database will increase your database size.
Storing the filename will increase your database size.
Putting static data on a different server (alias):
Makes scaling up a lot easier
Most browsers will not send more than two requests to the same server, by putting static data on a "second" server you speed up the loading
After researching for days, I made a system storing images and binaries on the database.
It was just great. I have now 100% control over the files, like access control, image sizing (I don't scale the images dynamically, of course), statistics, backup and maintenance.
In my speed tests, the sistem is now 10x slower. However, it's still not in production and I will implement system cache and other optimizations.
Check this real example, still in development, on a SHARED host, using a MVC:
http://www.gt8.com.br/salaodocalcado/calcados/meia-pata/
In this example, if a user is logged, he can see different images. All products images and others binaries are in DB, not cached, not in FS.
I have made some tests in a dedicated server and results were so far beyond the expectations.
So, in my personal opinion, although it needs a major effort to achieve it, storing images in DB is worth and the benefits are worth much more the cons.
As everybody else told you, never store images in a database.
A filesystem is used to store files -> images are files -> store them in filesystem :-)
Just tested my img's as blob, so. This solution working slower than images on server as file. Loading time should be same with images from DB or http but is't. Why? Im sure, when images are files on server, browser can caching it and loading only once, first time. When image going form DB, every time is loaded again. That's my oppinion. Maybe Im wrong about browser caching, but working slower (blob). Sry my English, whatever ;P
These are the pros of both solutions
In BLOBS :
1) pros : the easiness to mange clusters since you do not have to handle tricky points like file syncs between servers
2) DB backups will be exhaustive also
In files
1) Native caching handly (and that's the missing point of previous comments, with refresh and headers that you won't have to redesign in DB (DB are not handling last modification time by default)
2) Easiness of resizing later on
3) Easiness of moderation (just go through your folders to check if everything is correct)
For all these reasons and since the two pros of databases are easier to replicate on file system I strongly recommend files !
In my case, i store files in file system. In my images folder i create new folder for each item named based on item id (row from db). And name images in an order starting from 0. So if i have a table named Items like this:
Items
|-----|------|-----|
| ID | Name | Date|
|-----|------|-----|
| 29 | Test1| 2014|
|-----|------|-----|
| 30 | Test2| 2015|
|-----|------|-----|
| 31 | Test3| 2016|
|-----|------|-----|
my images directory looks like something like:
images/
29/
30/
31/
images/29/0.png
images/29/1.jpeg
images/29/2.gif
etc.