i need to send bulk mail in my php application, but its outgoing limit was 500, if i purchase VPS server for sending email if it grows more than 1000+ gmail /hotmail will mark me as a spam , so what is the solution for this issue?
{ purchasing api from mass providers is not under my budget }
If you think your mail is not spam and your mail server is not setup as a relay to others, then it is ok to go with a VPS server for the purpose.
In my case, I keep sending alerts to my customers on different conditions. The emails may amount to about 10000 a day. But I hear that these are blocked only in rare occasions and we ask the customers to add our from email to their address books and it becomes good after that.
If your mail is not SPAM then you should be be able to deliver it, with some effort. Read for example Gmail Bulk Senders Guidelines.
One consideration is that you should not start with sending thousands of mails to gmail or any other mail provider. If their system does not know your server (specifically the IP address of your SMTP server), then it will block you. Start sending a few mails per day, and gradually increase the count.
I think VPS is only usable if you get your own dedicated IP address. Otherwise I would rent a dedicated server.
I can suggest you an idea,which might sound WIERD !!!! and might lead you to pull hairs.
Search for peter bromberg article in egghead cafe on Asynchronous Mail sending technique. Search on google if you can send messages from multiple account via single app. For example if your target for the day is 10000 mails, and per day limit for any common email id (or free version or lite version of any bulk mailing) is say 500 then create an array of your email and assign them mail sending responsibility as per their limits. try to achieve this via your programming skills.
This is the only way i can suggest you in a very cost effective manner. But again you need minimum of 10-15 email ids for it, which is a biggest drawback of these approach.And you might need to create more 10-15 emails, if the earlier ones get blocked by your Service Provider or receivers SP.
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I am working on a bulk email class for a project and am using Amazon's SES smtp via phpmailer. I am trying to figure out a way to test sending multiple emails without getting blacklisted, spam blocked or blocked by the host. I would ideally like to test anywhere from 10,000 to 40,000 separate sendings. Ideally I would send test submissions to dummy addresses.
I know there are services such as http://tempinbox.com/
or
http://www.fakeinbox.com/
But what I would like is a reliable trusted service for testing bulk mailings without using my own personal email addresses.
Does anyone have any experience with this? If so, could you please point me in the right direction. Or let me know if this questions is better posted elsewhere. Thanks in advance.
Regards
If it was me I would setup a new domain (or use an existing one), and setup a catch-all account. That way you can send emails to test1#mydomain.com, test2#mydomain.com, test3#mydomain.com etc and you don't have to actually setup all those email accounts.
I actually do this with one of the domains I own, but more in the order of 200-300 separate accounts, not 40000.
All the emails will be directed into a single mailbox using this method.
Most likely, you are going to have to throttle the outgoing pace to 5/second if I remember correctly for AWS-SES (or AWS will do it for you and not gracefully).
Use a gmail address and the plus (+) sign after your email address with an extra identifier. For example, if your gmail account is
spamtester#gmail.com
send your test emails to
spamtester+1#gmail.com
spamtester+2#gmail.com
spamtester+3#gmail.com
...etc
They'll probably all end up in your spam folder, but you can whitelist them or just look in Spam to see them.
Brian
Reference: http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html
I am sure there are many of companies providing such services. The principle is, that your mail queue is going to the service company's main server, from where it is then distributed across many mail servers that company has in their cloud and from there it is being physically sent. That ensures your emails are delivered and servers that sent them are not blacklisted, because of the distribution. Unfortunately I do not have links, but sure uncle google will have some answers. Hope this helps a bit. Cheers.
I am developing a social networking site. It has functionality like user registration, people exchanging messages and sending email notifications for people's actions (and many more).
Currently I use PHP's mail function to send mails and it is working fine. I already set up a VPS and hosted the application.
My question may be a dumb question. Do Facebook and other social networking sites use SMTP servers to send the notifications or only just any kind of PHP mail function?
I read somewhere that using PHP's mail, there is a chance of mail going to SPAM folder. They advised using a certified SMTP server.
So, if I have to use an SMTP server:
1) Do I have to purchase a certified SMTP server separately? Or can this be hosted on same VPS whatever I have. If so, what server software will be good for this?
2) Are there settings I have to do in SMTP servers like send unlimited messages, because we don't know how many people exchange emails in a minute, and that is totally random.
To start: you are definitely going to have to use an SMTP server to send the emails from PHP. You can't simply throw your emails at the mail() function and expect it to work. You have to connect it to an SMTP server that does all of the dirty work.
However, if it's not your domain, I would suggest you don't do it. If you have the time to learn the ins and outs of email delivery and want to set up and maintain an SMTP server, by all means, go ahead.
If you'd rather focus on building your app and not worry about your emails getting delivered, I'd suggest an email delivery service. Here's a good list of services to check out:
PostageApp
Sendgrid
Postmark
Mailjet
And there are plenty more out there. All of them have a free option for you to play around with, so just look for the one that fits your needs and requirements.
(FULL DISCLOSURE: I am the Product Manager of PostageApp. Happy to answer any questions you might have about sending email from your app, though!)
The issue here is not really with the mail() function in itself, but in how you construct the emails. Messages can be treated as spam for a million and one reasons, but it is generally accepted that if you use one of the tried and tested mailer libraries, like Swiftmailer or PHPMailer (both free) there is marginally less chance of your messages being treated as spam.
Whether your messages get treated as spam is far more about how you construct your messages than how you send them. Another major factor is if your server sends thousands and thousands of emails all the time, so another hint is to be sparing with the emails you send out - only send them when you actually need to.
If you really want to know the answer to this question, you should do some reading on exactly how the modern email system works. Being able to build and send good emails is all about knowing how to work the system. Start here.
I'm in the process building a web application which is has a potential to send thousands of email on daily basis (most of it is system notification emails)
I'm using dedicated server for start but I'm thinking to use such as a smtp server to handle the sendmail process. Not just to reduce the server load but the most important thing is I don't wan't my server IP blacklisted in any spam list such as spamhaus.org
Can you suggest me what the best deal for this situation?
Options that I have so far are :
Using goggle app smtp with premier account. This is the option I prefered but I'm not sure whether google has such limitation that does not fit my situation
Using commercial smtp server (If this the best option, can you suggest me any reliable service for this?)
I would recommend a commercial solution because then your taken out of the maintenance and if you do get blacklisted you can enlist their support team to take care of it.
I've used campaign monitor and had very good success with them. The rates are comparable and the interface is very easy to use. This is more of a small business solution.
I've also used Responsys and Yesmail. These are more enterprise solutions and might be a little overkill for what your looking for.
Regarding black lists: if you are cautious, and do not do silly things, like sending 5000 mails once on a fresh IP address, than you will not be blacklisted. For the case of accidental blacklisting you should have a reserve IP address or a reserve server.
A few thousand mails is not a noticeable load on modern hardware. Just think about it: if you send 5000 mails per day that means only a single mail per 17 seconds.
That said I am not against using an external mail service for sending notifications at all, I just have no such experience.
Need your help in over coming the following issues.
i need to send opt-in newsletters to the user. But using "gmail SMTP", i will not be able to send more than 400 mails per day.
Even if i use the mail option given in the shared server, i will not be able to send mails more than 300 mails per day.
Can you please suggest any other way i can handle this issue. Is it possible to use PHP mail functions? are there any limitations in sending the number of mails to the users.
can a server control the mails sent using PHP mail function.
Thanks for reading.
thanks a lot
The limitation on the number of mails you can send per day/hour is set by your SMTP server. In case of the mail() function, it is once again set by your host. If you wish to remove this limitation, generally you would:
Talk to your host's tech support and
ask them to raise the limit. Some
hosts like Fatcow raise your limit
from 500 to about 5000 (don't remember the exact numbers).
You can buy a dedicated virtual
server with no such restriction,
where the limit would only be the
speed at which you could send your
emails.
You can try newsletter mailing
software/add-ons like
ConstantContact that help you manage
your newsletters effectively.
1- you can buy vps and send many mail
2- you can buy smtp server for many sent
3- you can buy valid ip and set in your pc ... run somethings like postfix and sent mail in this way ...
Use an smtp relay service. I've had good experiences with smtp.com in the past (I'm not affiliated with them in any way). You can grab a library to connect to it and get going relatively fast.
Yuou should check this link http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/server-smtp-limit.html
Every server comes with its own smtp/mail limit, usually 300-500 for shared and between 500 and 2k for dedicated. This is by ICAN regulations i believe to control spam as much as possible.
Most of the dedicated servers out there will increase your mail/smtp relay limit on a request mentioning why you need to increase,etc. You will also need to include an unsubscribe link in the newsletter so that users who recieve the mail can opt out from future mails.
Increasing the mail limit is sequential usually and it can be upto 100,000 on a godaddy dedicated server from what i got from chat support #go daddy.
As for gmail smtps, you can't send more than 500 a day and 2000 for business/educational google apps account.
I have a client that I'm wanting to move to a virtual private server. I'm trying to keep his server as simple as possible, not even having an email server on there (or at least that is the plan). The reason being I've read that email servers are complex to setup and take up alot of resources. I'm not sure what to do here.
He has a newsletter that he sends out to almost 75,000 people. Currently on his shared hosting there is a cron job that calls a script that sends out a 100 emails at a time (to keep within the limits of the host). I'm curious to know if the same thing is possible to do but with using his his Google Apps email account? Effectively logging in and sending the email from there? I can't seem to contact Google about this and it doesn't seem to be in their help section.
Is it possible? Would it be wrong to do? My client has looked at many of the mail out things out there (MailChimp, etc) but they are very expensive for what they are. Especially as what he has now does work. Thing is, I'm implementing the whole thing new on a VPS and so am looking at options.
UPDATE: It seems that the Google option just isn't an option (I'm not surprised by this at all). May I ask which minimal email server could be set up on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS which would allow me to continue the cron approach I had before on the shared server that will allow sending the emails out? (I will still continue to use MX records to Google for the actual emails the client will be using)
UPDATE: A friend of mine went to a mini Django convension in London the other week and there was guy who runs Mixcloud. He said he uses Google App Engine to send emails, so it's totally scalable. There is Google App Engine code up on Github here: http://github.com/tow/appengine-mailer and this seems to make sending email very easy from Django, from a command-line (so could use with PHP) etc. Looks like a very good option and cheap too! What do you guys reckon?
UPDATE: I've started a new question to make it more refined and clear to hopefully help others who maybe having this problem: Effectively using Google App Engine to send lots of emails using PHP?
There is a limit of how many emails can be sent per day through the google apps accounts. The limit is waaay below 75k I think it is 2k per mailbox if he has the premier account.
Two options here. Sign up with a company that does this for him: Constant Contact, Mail Chimp, ...etc. Or install an SMTP server and have it go out how it did before. The performance hit the server will depend on what mail server you choose and how much load is being placed on it.
UPDATE: I primarily work with windows servers so my experience is there (setting up secure SMTP in windows is pretty easy). Googled around and found this page on Ubuntu's site. It has a bunch of options for doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer . From that page you should only need the Mail Transfer Agent and possibly the Mailing Lists components. Also make sure to set up your SPF records correctly and identify this server's IP as an outgoing only server. It can also help to set up the server with an MX record with a priority higher than your other MX records. If google goes down incomming mail will try to go to your VPS but as long as you don't set it up to receive mail, just send it, it will bounce the request. Which would happen anyway if your google mail servers go down so nothing lost.
Lastly you can try to register your server's IP with yahoo as a bulk mailer.
UPDATE2: Also make sure to have the "FROM" address in the newsletter be a valid email address from a valid domain. This will help immensely with deliverability.
UPDATE3: Can you get a static IP with a APP Engine Account? If you can't get an IP (preferrably dedicated) assigned to you then your deliverability will be horrible and you will get blacklisted. IF you can get a static IP assigned to your App Engine account you can set it up in your SPF records and that solution should work.
I did this a while ago for a commercial website. To describe it as an utter ball-ache would be an understatement. The amount of man-hours we sent working with our mails, enabling the various headers to avoid it being flagged as spam, to ensure that it looked to ISPs as valid mail etc was far greater than anyone envisaged at the start of the project. Then there are issues with mail throttling and throughput - at one point we were sending a weekly mailout that took 8 days to go through the entire mailing list.....with obvious results.
Anyways, upshot is, outsource it - there are many companies out there who have already solved this problem for you - granted you have to pay for them, but its cheaper in the long run.
You should use a third party site to fulfill this clients requirements. There are lots of technical, legal, and spam issues that need to be overcome to ensure that your client is not blacklisted or fined.
A company like Industry Mailout, MailChimp, or Campaign Monitor will send your mail for you, and is often a lot cheaper than trying to do it all yourself. :D
Plus these companies offer useful analytics to make your campaign's better.