I have found no clear explanation if it is possible to allow someone to visit a page that requires a connection to a database without any need for a session to start.
I cleared the session_start etc from some pages and the pages died
EXAMPLE CASE
If I click on a url that has been created with $_GET...
www.site.xxx/cat.php/?cat=hitlermoustachefunnyhaha
will that page require a session_start etc to be able to fetch data from the database?
POSTSCRIPT
Error indeed found to be Human. As suggested by answerers if you simply convert a page written with one logic sequence it means all code logic had to be refollowed and ALL validation processes need to be skipped. DOH!
Strange question. answer is: depends on your code.
you need session_start() to start the session, and be able to get information from the session. If you do not use information from the session, you'll be able to do what you want.
So while technically the answer is "no", the session was there for a reason, and together with "the pages died" the answer is probably yes.
It looks like you do not know your codebase that well, so you need to look around. Go look for LOC with $_SESSION in them. IF they are used for building queries or stuff, then you obviously need the session.
No, you don't need sessions to use a database connection. Those are completely independent.
Nope. You do not need a session in order to fetch data from a database. But, the PHP code can also check for a session and die if it doesn't find one. Do you have any code to give? If so, I could better answer your question and possibly give you a reason why the page dies.
Related
Ok, i have one totaly noob question about php sessions:
I have 3 (and more) php pages, i need to protect them with login system and sessions. Now, i am including this to the top of every page:
session_name('somename');
session_start();
if(!$_SESSION['user_loggedIn']){
header("location: login.php");
}
if (isset($_SESSION["timeout"])) {
$inactive = 900;
$sessionTTL = time() - $_SESSION["timeout"];
if ($sessionTTL > $inactive) {
session_destroy();
header("location: login.php");
}
}
Question: is it correct to add something like include session.php; to top of every php file, ofc. session.php would include only code above.
You shouldn't need to handle the session timeout yourself, your webserver is almost certainly handling that for you already. All you should need to do is check to see if the session exists and make sure you have login info in that session.
Also, as far as "what's the right thing to do" -- if you require it at the top of every php file, remember to use "require_once" because there's no point in doing the same thing over and over if you include other files. Also, you may only need to do this on pages where you know you only want secured users, which isn't always every page of the site.
PHP is a programming language that is similar to JavaScript but allows for better functionality of the code to develop dynamic websites and apps. PHP stands for Hypertext Pre-Processor. In this tutorial, I will walk you through what a session is, how to declare session variables, and introduce you to a few functions that will allow you to get your session up and running in the way you need it to.
What Is a Session?
First, you may be asking yoursslef, “what is a session?” In this programming language, a session is “used to store and pass information from one page to another temporarily (until the user closes the website).” If you are familiar with cookies, sessions are a very similar topic. While cookies are only stored on the local computer and browser that you use, sessions get stored on your machine as well as on the server you’re using. Both of these collect information about the way you interact with the webpage to improve the experience for a user. To summarize the two of them, “data that is kept in cookies is solely kept on the client’s side, whereas the information kept in sessions is kept on both the client and server’s sides.” (The link to the article I found this can be found here).
The most common functions that you will use as you begin to learn PHP are the session_start() function, the die() function, and the session_destroy() function. These three functions allow you as the user to start specific tasks and then stop them whenever you want. The session start function will allow you to, of course, start a new session. The die() function will allow you to clear any session variables that you may have used during your session, and the session_destroy() function will end your session. Now, understanding what a session is, let’s discuss what a session variable is and how you can declare them.
What Are Session Variables?
Session variables make it possible to make sessions in PHP useful and functional. Which variables you use will be different depending on the project you’re working on, but in my project and database I used variables that helped me see the status of users on my database. I’ll share two examples (see screenshot below, lines 54-55). The two variables I declared here were “logged_in” and “username”. All session variables are declared with a unique syntax. The proper way to declare a session variable is as follows:
$_SESSION[“nameofvariable”] = “variable declaration”;
It is important that you declare your session variables in this syntax or you will not be able to have your sessions run properly. As a system administrator, these variables help me to see who is logged into the databases and making edits to tasks. In addition, the logged_in variable enables functionality of the database and webpage. If the user is not logged in, then the code knows to redirect the user to the login page. See the example below:
Screenshot 1:
I then used these variables to help me keep track of the state that my program and database were in to allow it to function properly.
Let’s Get To It: How to Set Up Your Sessions
Now that we understand more about what a session is and how session variables can help us accomplish our goal of a functioning program, let’s discuss the process as to how we can actually implement this. First off, go ahead and open up your IDE. I personally picked Visual Studio Code as it allows me to comfortably program with color codes, but you can pick whichever one you choose. In this example I will show you how I set up both of my sessions using a particular action that implemented my to-do list to my database. Although the code I will share will be specific to my project, the principles will remain the same for all PHP code.
In the screenshot at the end of this section I have some code I wrote at the top of an action file that ultimately ended up allowing a registered user on my webpage to sign into their to-do list. Because this was an element that required the database to be fully implemented, I knew that I had to use the PHP language. In this screenshot and in your code, you should start your code with the simple PHP starter code of:
<?php
That’s right! That is all you have to do. This allows your IDE to recognize what you will be coding in. Once it has this information you get to set up your session which, believe it or not is another easy step. In order to declare that you’re going to be starting your session all you need to do is declare the following code:
session_start();
In order to properly run your sessions, it is vital to know and understand that this HAS to be the first thing declared in your code document otherwise it will not function properly. Once this code has been declared then the computer knows to iterate through the code in your document until another function is called telling it to stop. Once your function is declared you have the chance to declare your session variables and any other information you need the computer to know. Here in screenshot 2 I have the visual example of me declaring my php language, starting my session, and declaring the variables that are unique to me that establish my connection from my to-do list to my database. This is my 2nd screenshot:
Screenshot 2:
From this example you can see from lines 1-16 of my action file. Everything that I did here is what was explained in this section.
Useful Tip:
Another function that allows you to properly manage your session is the die() function. I implemented this one in my file. It is a way for the script to be stopped while keeping your session open. This was useful to me because it was a way of letting my script know to stop and moving to the next portion of my instructions, which were found in another file. If you are coding a particular project that requires multiple actions, then this is a great function to keep in mind!
Destroying (Ending) a Session
The word “destroy” sounds pretty hardcore, but in PHP sessions destroy is just a word that means “end”. The syntax of this function within the session is the following:
session_destroy()
The destroy function will take any and all data that you used during your session and destroy it. However, it is important to note that it will NOT reset or delete any of the global variables that you may have declared during your coding. In order to start a session again you need to code your project to have the first function, start_session(), called again.
End Result
You may or may not be coding a database, but the steps that I listed above should be a place to allow you to learn the basic principles of what a session is, how to start one, declare variables, and end your session at the appropriate time. In my particular database project I was able to use sessions to allow users to login to a page, log out of their account, register a new user, to update actions included in the database, and more. Whatever your project may be, sessions have a great ability to adapt to the needs that you have as a coder. In the extremely rare event this tutorial didn’t answer every question that you have, I have also included a list of some additional links and videos that may help you answer any unanswered questions about sessions in the PHP language. Happy coding!
Additional Resources:
https://www.javatpoint.com/php-session
This website is a great resource for studying more about what a PHP session is and all basic information about what they do. This page also includes information on specific types of sessions, how to code them, how to implement them, and when they should be used.
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/What-is-the-difference-between-session-and-cookies
This is a great resource for understanding the differences between sessions and cookies, and for also seeing how they are similar. This website is comprehensive in how it compares the two features, even going into detail on their capacities, functions, data storage, and format.
https://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-use-sessions-and-session-variables-in-php--cms-31839
This website does a deep dive more into what a session is and defines Session Variables for the PHP language. It goes into detail on how to start sessions and also talks about some common errors that may occur.
https://www.javatpoint.com/php-session
This link has outstanding information and further descriptions as to how to destroy, or end, a session. It also goes into further detail on what it will do to your project and code in addition to describing what it will not do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6KID8n0zCU
This is a great video that describes sessions. I personally like to refer to it as “Sessions for Dummies”.
I always think that I am the unluckiest guy, because I have to maintain very horrible code written by some one else. But after going through some of the forums, I realized I am not alone.
This code was written before I started working here, now I am maintaining it. I always keep asking that we should allocate time to rewrite the code, but no one cares.
The question I am about to ask, you can comment that it is absolutely horrible, but rewriting the whole code is not an option.
Here is the scenario.
The whole website is written in PHP 4 (60% of website is in index.php, don't know why), so every now and then there is session_start(). Due to that, the session gets reset very frequently and it used to log out the user. I went ahead and commented out session_start(). It stopped logging out the user when he is in the website. Now there are some new issues.
Did I do something wrong by commenting the session_start()?
EDIT:
I saw documentation about session_start, may be I did not add some additional information in question. I did google search "session size limit PHP" the following is the link. stackoverflow.com/questions/217420/ideal-php-session-size. So what happens if there is too much data in the session? – user110093
From the php documentation
session_start() creates a session or resumes the current one based on a session identifier passed via a GET or POST request, or passed via a cookie.
So what you are describing in the following should not be happening:
so every now and then there is session_start(). Due to that the session gets reset very frequently and it used to log out the user.
If I were you, I would delve deeper and find out the reason why sessions are reset. session_start() should not be the root of this problem.
As the title says, is there another way to pass a variable from "current" page over to "next" (new HTTP request) page without using sessions/cookies/$_GET?
Well, I guess $_POST could be an option too, but the thing here is, that I want to pass this variable from already executed $_POST back to off-the-post environment page, but inbetween I'm having a redirect, to disallow reposting the same form.
In other words, basicly, I'm trying to "make" a seamless PRG, but sessions/cookies/$_GET is not an option.
And yes, I'm working with classes (hence the oop tag). Therefore maybe some kind of magic functions, or output control?
This has to work within PHP environment, no JavaScript or other non server side language.
I also have a bad feeling that it's impossible, but hopefully I'm wrong, and there is a solution.
Thanks in advance!
update no. 1
Basicly, I want to create a PRG with response.
Inside this $_POST I'm adding data to database. I want this response to hold information whether this database query has been successful or not. Kind of make this $_POST process almost invisible to the user. And yes, display a response with the result later on.
All of this happens in one method:
if($_POST){
// insertion
}else{
// display no-post environment, if response exists (therefore posted) display response too
}
Something like that...
Sessions is not an option because this is meant to be some kind of API.
update no. 2
Huh, let me rephrase the question a little. Well, it seems that I don't actually need to pass the variable over. What I want to do, is to have 2 different results after POST so on next page load I could know whether the actions in POST has been successful or not. So, what other options are out there without using sessions/cookies/$_GET to get this result?
Currently there is:
temporary database usage: a good option, but I'd like to see different options;
Since you're already using a database it seems like the easiest way to handle this would be to update some kind of temporary table with the information you want based on the post call, then on the page you're doing a header redirect to, read the information in that table. With the constraints you've placed on this (no GET, SESSION, Cookie or Javascript) you're not going to be able to maintain a variable when you redirect from one page to the next.
So leverage that database and take the work off of PHP. Initially I was going to suggest utilizing cURL but I don't think that will help here (though you may want to look it up if you're unfamiliar with it, as it might be what you're looking for)
HTTP is a stateless protocol; thus, there's not going to be an easy, built-in way to add state. That said, I think sessions are the best way to accomplish what you want to do. If what you're doing isn't in the browser, maybe try some sort of session key setup (like the Facebook platform uses).
I´m having some serious trouble debugging this particular problem and I hope someone has a clue what i´m doing wrong.
I have a Custom CMS system working that uses Paragraphs as building blocks that get updated using Ajax(prototypejs) calls and functions that parse the HTML chunks in given order, clean them up and save this data in associative arrays in a Session variable.
Users log in, Session is created and I can check for this session without problem in every page I need it. The system works directly on the definitive websites, so the user can see his updates on realtime and browse the site as a normal user would do, but editing.
So, nothing new here. But here is the weird thing.
Enduser site on edit mode(admin user logged in): path "/"
After the logged status is verified, a function processes the editable content and saves an associative array to session, it also starts some javascript objects for editing every paragraph. Data is actually saved, I can use an external script to check if it´s there after this php script ends.If I load a new page(new content), Session gets updated with new data)
Admin User modifies a paragraph using an Inplaceeditor and this HTML chunk is send via Ajax to a php script that starts the named session, reads the present session data, checks if a paragraph should be modified, appended or deleted and reassigns values to existing array keys in $_SESSION. if i make a var_dump() o print_r to $_SESSION after assigning new data is there.After that the script echoes the processed html, and ajax updates the original paragraph on the calling page.
This script is in /admin/cms/...etc, that means at least 4 directories inside the root of the site.
When the script ends, I check using the same session dump script to see if data was really written/commited, but no, $_SESSION has only the original data from the calling page.
Same ID, same session name, same session_start() but no data gets written.
This whole operation is very quick, so I though it could be a speed problem, scripts ends before session_write_close can make his work.
But if I add a new key to $_SESSION array and put some data there, data gets updated and written. If i don´t output anything on this script and just process data and set session variables it also get´s updated and written.
It´s like some members of $_SESSION array are getting blocked to update.
What i did to track this error and what i´m sure i´m not doing wrong.
1.- register_globals are off of course
2.- session_name() and session_start() are always present and in the given
order. I used to have multiple
session_start() -close on a same page
to use several named sessions, but to
refine the problem this is not longer
so.
3.- I use session_write_close() after session data is processed. Also
tried without, letting php decide
when to commit data, but no luck.
4.- I`m using only cookies for SID.
5.- sessions are stored on /tmp, i can see the data getting updated.
I also tried using a custom save
handler on DB, but same problem,
"_write" got only called when no output as present.
I searched php.net, stackoverflow, google, etc for this subject. I never ask without investigation, this is my first time in many years...but it´s just so unlogical it must be something tiny a haven´t thought of.
The most weird thing is that when I just process data without output $_SESSION gets updated ok. But if i modify this script afterwards by adding the output and try again, instead of just having the new(last) value present I get the original value back, the one created by the calling page at first place, sometimes after playing around a few times! PHP can´t cache values between scripts or?I dont have globlals on.
I´m really clueless. This system worked flawless on PHP4.3, since i´m using 5.3.3 for two moths my users where caliming data where getting mixed up, so i checked and yes, there are serious problems. Today I updated to (5.3.6) and I can´t get this session values commited.
Script code called via Ajax:
<?
session_cache_limiter('nocache');
session_name("CMS_ses");
session_start();
include('../htmLawed/htmLawed.php');
include("utils_cms.php");
include("../../../php/utils_array.php");
$value=$_POST['value'];
$editorId=$_POST['editorId'];
$clase=$_POST['clase'];
$editorId=str_replace("pre","",$editorId);
$value=html_entity_decode(stripslashes($value),ENT_QUOTES);
if (strlen(trim($value))==0)
{
die();
}
$value="<div id=\"$editorId\" class=\"$clase\">$value</div>";
$newXHTML=$value;
$retorno=CMS_nuevoBloque($newXHTML,$editorId);
$_SESSION['data']['CMSeditores']=$retorno[1];
$_SESSION['data']['CMScont']=$retorno[2];
session_write_close();
print_r($retorno[0]); //Offending part...without everything works
?>
really nothing strange here....main page code is even simpler, no strange php directives, etc.
Here is the header of the caller page
include 'php/db.php';
$len=$_GET['len'];
$sec=$_GET['sec'];
$cont=$_GET['cont'];
$admfin=$_GET['admfin'];
$fecha=$_GET['fecha'];
$token=$_GET['token'];
$cur=$_GET['cur'];
$PHP_SELF=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
session_cache_limiter('nocache');
session_name("CMS_ses");
session_start();
$passvar='';
unset($adm);
if ((!empty($_SESSION['cms_logged'])) and (!isset($admfin)) )
{
$nivelpermisos=$_SESSION['cms_logged_group'];
$useractual=$_SESSION['cms_logged'];
$adm=1;
}
elseif (empty($_SESSION['cms_logged']))
{
unset($useractual);
}
//.........rest of the code
UPDATE: I did late night tests and found someting i don´t understand.HElP please:
It has not only to do with Sessions but also with Mysql Querys. Same code, but instead of trying to write to $_SESSION array i made a simple update to a Innodb table using the session_id. When i Output some code, the update does get executed,(i can output the query string and no mysql_error() or notice) problems, but checking the database the row doesn´t get updated. Letting the output out if the script and Query does get commited. Only common thing is sessions are started and output is made.
I restarted Apache, etc(who knows) but no luck. Then i made something really stupid, because this is a server side thing. I changed my browser to Firefox(using safari) and everything works! Ok, recheck, back to safari, nothing works. Both running side by side, same issue. PHP is server side, how can different browsers handle code different, can a browser say to apache rollback, request not handled or call the same script twice without notice(checked safaris developer console and the script is called only once) ? Can safari resubmit data silently because it "thinks" ajax failed? I checked headers using firebug and Safaris developer tools , nothing strange but whenever i make a Ajax call with safari, the caller page reloads data(Aka conection to server...).
I really don´t understand nothing.
I had a similar problem to this (if I have understood correctly). I needed to force session data to be written (for a custom session driver) after scripts have finished running. A shutdown function can be registered which should run after scripts have finished.
Maybe this will solve (or help you to solve) your problem.
http://php.net/manual/en/function.register-shutdown-function.php
Thank's for your help. I was doing everything in the right order and still session data was not being written. Session names where necesary because sometimes we test many sites on the same domain using the same custom CMS. So, finally, after making lots of test and no luck, i found that register globals was active on this server(we never use it, code was written having this option off in mind of course), but it messes with sessions!. Switching this off made a huge change. No more problemas. I also made a custom session handler in DB, so i could track the problems in an more centralized way.
Conclussion: Never use register globals + named sessions, an complex data in sessions.
Anyway, i will give this issue more time and more tests. Ajax calls are also sometimes too fast, i had to put a sleep command so writing the session data was really done.Thanks
I am not sure but few suggestion i think may be helpful.
delete session cookies before refreshing the page for testing purposes :)
Ensure that you're not assigning any arrays with a key containing the pipe character (|). This will prevent the session data from being serialized and saved.
Do session_regenerate_id(true); many cases session_write_close doesn't seem to matter with out session_regenerate_id. or just do session_start() after session_write_close() if you are relying on SID ; and in your case i think this is what is causing problem to you as you are ending the current session every time and not re starting it for the next page. hope u get my point. Further more To Make sure data is actually flushed out to the browser use ob_end_flush();
i could not understand the connection between
$_SESSION['data']['CMSeditores']=$retorno[1];
$_SESSION['data']['CMScont']=$retorno[2];
and
$nivelpermisos=$_SESSION['cms_logged_group'];
$useractual=$_SESSION['cms_logged'];
i think you need to paste some more code where the data part is causing problem instead of admin login part.
i hope this helps you.:)
Is there any reason you're establishing the session name twice? I've had issues in the past where I would establish the session without a name, then another piece of script (not mine) was naming the session. Even at the end of the script I was able to print out the session variable, but once I went to a new page my session had been forgotten. It wasn't until I copied the name included in the 2nd script into my session call that it was solved.
Check that there's no other session names being used; also, maybe try only naming the session once, at the first call to the session?
Question: Are you calling session_start() first thing... before ANY output to the browser and before any variables are assigned?
Sounds silly but give it a try.
Also, why are you using session names? Really not necessary unless you have a lot of session variables with the same name serving different purposes and if thats the case then you need to fix that first!
I had a similar problem but it was having with ie few years back. IE manipulates the header on its own way and that causes strange php bugs that you can find in php.net archives.
#Diego Pino Navarro, please see this help page and find Safari and it's issues with php.
I also found "Safari "forget" http-authentication's logon-information".
When the user submit his data, I take him to a different page where plenty of calculations are made, then I redirect him to the original page with a simple :
<?php header("Location:http://mysite.com/index.php");
The problem is I need all the variables and results to be show in this page, but they are obviously stored in the other one, so I need your help please :) !
Thank you for reading this !
PHP sessions.
session_start(); as the first thing on both (and all of your pages where you want to access this data).
set the variables you want to access as such:
$_SESSION["somekey"] = "somevalue";
then you can recall them on any of the other pages.
this functionality is reliant on session cookies, of course.
You can accomplish this through the use of sessions.
Don't forget you could use a database.
Sessions would be your best choice. See the other answer for the link to the php manual.
You could append them to the URI, but depending on field length and field counts that could be very messy (or not even possible, if too long).
If neither of these are options (too long, can't use cookies), you could can pass the session key along in the GET param. You can then use sessions normally.