I'm trying to start a new project, and was looking for the "ultimate" package to kick-start off with for PHP/MySQL/HTML5 development. Tried CodeIgniter first, which was great. Then discovered Twitter Bootstrap, and integrated that in nicely. Finally, found HTML5 Boilerplate, which looked awesome, and saw that some people were putting together mixes of these three.
Was wondering if anyone has actually been able to put together and run an integration of all three well? I see there's a github repo for this: https://github.com/vesparny/codeigniter-html5boilerplate-twitter-bootstrap, but I couldn't find any StackOverflow inquiries on it. Anyone have some experience they could share before I jump in? Didn't want to spend days trying to figure it out, just to find out it would've been easier/better to just stick with pure CodeIgniter or just HTML5BP.
i'm the author of that library you've looking into. https://github.com/vesparny/codeigniter-html5boilerplate-twitter-bootstrap
Tw bootstrap and H5BP can be simply mixed together as you can see in my code;
Codeigniter is a great framework but lacks in view organization imho.
With this library you can take advantage of the best client side tools, and the most famous and simple php framework with some enhancement that would speed up and better organize your code and approach to code with codeigniter.
Seems like not many people try this I guess, but it DOES work, and it works fine as far as I can tell.
CodeIgniter works well as the php framework, and you can integrate the HTML5 BP to render your pages in a HTML5-friendly way, with a few javascript libraries like Initialzr's modernizer to help with loading resources. CodeIgniter is pretty fast, and there is pretty much zero conflict when combining CI with HTML5 BP, making it a pretty quick and painless addition.
Twitter Bootstrap works fine as well, since it's mainly CSS and javascript plugins for components, which you can merge with HTML5's plugins.js file if you want / need it. I'd say that after playing with this, Twitter Bootstrap isn't really necessary, but it does help you put together a responsive front-end pretty quickly. Not sure if there are other packages out there that might be better.
How do you want to run an installation of css and javascript file?
Take HTML5 Boilerplate and Twitter bootstrap files and copy them into your website root directory (directory where is your Codeigniter application folder located).
Now you can use them as any other javascript/html/css libraries and frameworks.
And I still don't know why are you trying to use Twitter Bootstrap with HTML5 Boilerplate. I am not using any of these but they look similar. It looks like a little overhead for your website.
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I want to use Laravel Bootstrapper bundle http://bundles.laravel.com/bundle/bootstrapper with my CodeIgniter application.
How can i utilize autoloader functionality to use Bootstrapper bundle code in CodeIgniter in native PHP 5 fashion.
Button::make('Abc')->with_icon('ok');
Do you suggest to convert Bootstrapper bundle in CodeIgniter library or we can use it as it is.
I am using bootstrap for creating views, thus already including bootstrap specific css, js & images.
Please help, so that the bundle can be used with CodeIgniter
Why? It's not designed to work with CI, you'll probably have to mess about alot to get it working. See one of the many versions available for CI here https://github.com/vesparny/codeigniter-html5boilerplate-twitter-bootstrap.
Further more, I dont see any great advantage of having a bootstrap CI integration, if you do then go for it but I just use my own customised bootstrap and load it in as normal in template/view files. Works just fine and keeps all those UI/view bits and pieces separate for designers/Front-end coders who panic at the sight of php.
All this work trying to keep design, function and layout separate and people go to great effort to ruin it with something like this.
I have a little specific concern, I hope you can help me, I have to develop an application in PHP that doesn't need to be linked to the exclusive use of its installation and could be used or "included" in other projects of PHP, I mean, to develop a web application (such as generation of a graph according to certain parameters passed) that can be used on different pages created for example in phpBB, Drupal, Dreamweaver or PHP Frameworks like CodeIgniter and Zend.
The best example of what I mean is "Google Charts Tools", you just print in the browser the access to the tool with the parameters and the tool does the rest, and this does not depend on the type of framework with which the home page was created.
In short, I'm looking for a framework or lightweight framework with which I can develop an application that simply could be called in an include() or require() on the destination page and can be used, a framework that can somehow "export" the project or application and could be used on one page without having to reinstall the framework on the target server, even the libraries could be included in the target page so you can run the application.
Was working with Codeigniter and tried to attach to a Joomla page but i couldn't because Codeigniter is linked to the URL of the page and I dont want to use Iframes.
Is there something like that?
First of all; I believe you would need some custimization, as frameworks just aren't build that way. But it isn't impossible. In Kohana for example (also codeigniter, but kohana is more flexible), you can build internal requests with Request::factory($uri). If you can find out a way to bypass direct access to index.php, or build a wrapper after which you can do stuff in the Kohana 'environment' you could do it. I don't have a ready-to-use solution, but if you try something and post the code we might be able to help you out some more!
Sounds to me like you want to write a library or class that can do certain things and which can be reused in other code. You can then build an example application around it, using a framework, which uses this library.
If you start with a whole framework, this often makes it really hard to reuse any part of the code, since the framework has certain assumptions or requirements which may not always be true for other projects. As a general rule: a framework is already a complete standalone application. What you want is something smaller than that.
Of course, you can have a look at a framework like Zend, which is basically just a loose collection of individual classes. Together they form a framework, but each part of it is individually usable. Something like CI is on the other end of the spectrum, much more heavily coupled and interdependent.
I'm thinking of building a plugin based application.
At the moment, I am not sure what type of plugins will be used so I don't have a requirement.
I wish to know how such applications are designed so I can start my application around that.
Does anyone have any experience with this? I don't mind what sort of system it is or what your plugins do. What I want are some ideas on how others have achieved this so I can formulate and make my own.
Thanks.
I use this for all of my plugins: http://failover.co.za/2010/10/20/writing-a-pluggable-php-application-part-1/
If the plugins are going to be built by people who won't be editing the script, then you can just include the file for the plugin.
I think it's better for you to work with MVC Framework and then create an application core (modules and all apps need and require this), then think global and create other apps and modules.
Also I suggest you look at an Open Source CMS like Wordpress, Drupal, etc.
I'm in the process of starting a new web site that is something like stackoverflow but a little bit more different along with making the members profiles highly more customizable I was thinking of building it from scratch using PHP, but was thinking of using CakePHP, but then I thought WordPress sounded better but I remember working with wordpress and it was a little bit slow at times when you tried to browse the web site.
So what I guess I'm trying to ask is that should I design the site from scratch? And I heard techcrunch.com and 9rules.com are completely done in WordPress, is this true?
Wordpress is a blogging engine, which is a specialised kind of CMS. It's not suitable for building something like Stack Overflow on.
CakePHP on the other hand is a framework - something to help you build a website so you're not starting from scratch. This would be a good bet.
For other PHP frameworks check these questions:
What PHP framework would you choose for a new application and why?
PHP Framework Decision - Analysis paralysis!
Be sure to check other frameworks too. CakePHP is a framework which makes a lot of choices for you. If your application fits in it probably works like a charm, but otherwise a framework can be a huge pain. Zend Framework has a lot more flexibility, but it also takes a lot more time to bootstrap your project. In the end it is all about personal preferences, so I would recommend you to just try some frameworks and find out how it feels for you.
Some frameworks:
Zend Framework
Symfony
CodeIgniter or it's successor Kohana
Wordpress isn't slow, if get decent web hosting and know how to tune a webserver. But no, it won't really suffice for this. FastCGI on a threaded webserver with enough memory to cover peak traffic is the way to go.
Drupal (and maybe Plone) could probably do what you want without coding, but you'd still have to learn a lot, so you might not gain much over just coding the thing.
Using wordpress or joomla or any other framework will require enormous emounts of custimization of the framework to meet your ends. If you are not very comfortable with using those frameworks and how they are built, you are probably better off writing by hand, and maybe develop your own framework that suits your own needs.
Hand code the novel aspects of your site first without concern for the final product. You goal should be to find what you really need and how you are going to need them. For instance, if you need a blog for the staff, then you can install WordPress and move on to the next problem (your branding can be duplicated to a WordPress theme).
If existing software solves the problem, then version 1.0 should be a Frankenstein solution (which sucks aesthetically). The idea is to map out the incongruities between the various problems you are trying to solve so that when you do rewrite everything you do not produce the same problems.
Ideally, you will spend most of your time adding value to what you need that is novel about the site.
I am looking for an easy-to-use CMS that can be used to host a multilingual website with photo galleries and a few forms.
I am open to PHP/Python, excluding WordPress/Joomla/Drupal.
Django CMS 2.0 is a great multilingual CMS.
Views are cached and being a pluggable Django app makes it very extensible.
You would like the plugin approach of the design, is very helpful to integrate existing apps to a project.
http://github.com/digi604/django-cms-2.0/tree/master
Try CMS From Scratch. It's hard to get any simpler or easier.
Also, don't forget http://www.opensourcecms.com/. They host demo versions of most CMSs out there that you can try.
If you're open to Ruby, see Radiant CMS: "Radiant is a no-fluff, open source content management system designed for small teams." Also Mephisto.
For something in Python that isn't Django, you can also try Pylons.
Checkout django-blocks. Has multi-language Menu, Flatpages and even has a simple Shopping Cart!!
Since you tag django, I can suggest you a reusable Django application called django-photologue. IMHO it's worth it to use a CMS capable framework like Django rather than using a ready made CMS because in the future there would be a chance for you to customize your application. Using a ready made CMS I reckon is not as flexible as using a framework like Django.
One of your tags is 'django'.
I don't know if I would call Django simple, but it is easy
to use - once you know how... It has a very steep learning
curve.
Perhaps you are really looking for which framework to learn
and use for web-development for the next many years? I that
case I would recommend Django. Others systems I considered
were (all PHP based):
Joomla
CMSMS (CMS Made Simple)
Drupal
CodeIgniter,
CakePHP
Symfony
Smarty
Concrete5.
I have completed a Django project.
The problem is that the lighter CMS systems out there don't usually offer a lot - which is why WordPress/Joomla/Drupal have made it so big. WordPress actually takes 9 MB to load the index page on a vanilla install.
Have you looked at http://chryp.net?
If you know how to program in Python or PHP then there are MANY CMSes built by the users of frameworks that offer a lot if you don't mind messing with code.