I have 2 sites:
SITE A - an asp.net site
SITE B - a php site
We have all the user information in an asp.net site (which is actually a Kentico site).
Now, there is a business requirement that users should be able to log-in with the same credentials in Site B. Ideally, we would need that users who log-in Site A, and navigate to Site B, the authentication would be automatic.
Is there a way to achieve this form of authentication. Or is it not possible?
This is not an authentication problem, but an authorization one. Once you have authenticated your user, in whichever way you want, with whichever technology you want, you probably will grant them some sort of token that you will then use to grant authorization to the different resources in your sites.
In your case you have two different technologies, which only means that you won't be able to use the out of the box asp.net or php session management, but all you need to do is have a common place to check that the session tokens are valid, they belong to a legitimate user and that user has permissions to access this resource.
If the above is trivial, sorry, maybe your question is more oriented to the sites being in two different domains, and therefore not being able to use a domain cookie to store the session information. is that the case?
The canonical solution to this is to use a protocol like OpenID. OpenID allows a website to ask a user to authenticate themselves using a different site, and then honour those credentials; using a protocol called "attribute Exchange", the authentication provider can provide additional data about the user.
OpenID is how StackExchange manages to log you in with your Google account (or whatever you're using), and how sites in the SO network recognize your identity without you logging in everywhere.
The benefit for OpenID is that it's a widely used protocol, so it's likely to be highly secure and well-tested; you don't risk weaving your own solution and accidentally exposing your users to security risks. It's well-documented, and widely supported.
There's an OpenID framework for .Net which allows you to create your own OpenID provider; it appears Kentico supports OpenID as an authentication mechanism. There are several OpenID libraries for PHP (Google is your friend here).
Exactly how you implement this depends on how your Kentico authentication works right now, but in principle it should be fairly easy to glue the Kentico user database to an OpenID provider you write; getting Kentico to use that for authentication appears to be a configuration setting. You'd have to re-write the PHP site to use OpenID; again, not clear how that currently works, but I can't imagine it would be harder than any other solution you might try.
I had a similar issue on a .net platform where I didn't have the option to put them on one subdomain. In that case you could pass the username and a token (that signified the user was already authenticated by site B) and perhaps the encrypted password to re-authenticate against an external DB, then redirect them to the site. In my case I needed to do this as I was redirecting to the corresponding site CMS for site admins.
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So my scenario goes like :
I have two sites a.com and site b.com and one authentication server cauth.com.
what client wants is ...
When user lands on a.com or b.com user fills in the login form on respective site , but the action of form will be on cauth.com (cauth.com/authenticate). when user is authenticated on cauth he is loggined on the both sites.
I am thinking to implement SAML to achieve the same and flow is like
after authentication iDP(cauth.com) will send SAML response to the both the service providers and user will be given access to both the sites .
I am novice in SAML and unable to get proper documentation and comprehension for the same.
What I want to know is :
Is my solution to the problem worth implementation ?
Is it possible to make site (cauth.com) as identity provider.I have looked at thread Making your PHP website into SAML Identity Provider but not able to get proper solution.
SimpleSamlPHP should be pretty easy to set up. You'll want to make a copy of the folder modules/exampleauth/ and then alter the file modules/<yournewmodule>/lib/Auth/Source/External.php to work for your site. The documentation is good though and it's definitely the easiest thing for your need, and the right one.
I should add that following the instructions to set up SimpleSamlPHP should give you a basic understanding of which metadata files are most important and where they live and how things interact.
I am not sure which technology you are using for your application. If you are free to switch to JAVA then I can suggest you Spring-Saml because its very easy to implement and fulfill your requirement. Spring-Saml has good documentation and online support as well being it as open-source project.
You can refer this link for Spring-saml and for code-repo use this link
You can integrate spring-saml in your abc.com and xyz.com application to make it Service provider(SP) and you can deploy it on different domain as well. Then you need to have one IDP (identity provider server) for your SPs. So you can use either ADFS with Active directory or LDAP to act as IDP.
We had similar requirement for our customer. I recently integrated spring-saml in my project.
Please let me know for any help
A federated Single Sign On (SSO) mechanism like SAML or OpenID Connect will give you what you want.
This comes with the important distinction that the login form would not be presented on a.com or b.com but those sites would rather redirect to cauth.com and the user would authenticate there. cauth.com would then send a verifiable "assertion" to a.com and b.com that the user has authenticated successfully. This constitutes one of the major goals of federated SSO, namely that the user credentials should not be presented/stored-by foreign websites and makes the means of authentication independent from the target websites ("Relying Parties").
So what you should be looking for is a suitable implementation of SAML or OpenID Connect for your platform (don't write it yourself!) and leverage that.
Shibboleth is open source and one of the most popular SSO solutions. It includes a SAML Identity Provider which you can download here: https://shibboleth.net/downloads/identity-provider/latest/ .
If your client is willing, one approach would be to use a cloud SSO provider like Okta which has a developer program and could make things easier.
I think there is a subtle misunderstanding in your description. For SAML authentication, if a user at site a.com either clicks a login link/button or tries to access a secure page, that user will receive an http 305 redirect to cauth.com. There the user will enter their credentials, and the user will be redirected back to a.com. If that user then goes to site b.com and tries to access secure content, b.com sends the user to cauth.com with the same http 305 redirect. This time, as there is an active session for the user's browser at cauth.com, the user does NOT see the credential form. Instead, the IDP returns the user with a successful authentication to b.com. It appears to the user that they are automatically logged on to site b, but in truth a SAML authentication flow has occurred.
Hans Z's answer elides the fact the that IDP only sends the assertions on the request of a or b (the Relying parties or RPs, also known as Service Providers or SPs). It is not a broadcast to all RPs.
I'll reinforce that SAML does NOT support a.com receiving the credentials from the user and then passing them to the authentication engine. This is a pattern one may be familiar with from LDAP.
Take a look at the sequence diagram in the wikipedia entry on SAML.
Follow below instruction to get SAML implimentation with PHP.
SAML login setup is very easy in php.
First register on onelogin server
https://www.onelogin.com/signup and create demo app on it. After
it follow all instruction to set Idp (Identity provider setting ) and
sp (service provider setting) to settings.php
https://developers.onelogin.com/saml/php
It worked perfect for me with CI and and php
We have an app hosted on our domain. All users are required to first log in through a POST form. Once login has happened, then form redirects to dashboard page on our site automatically.
Is it possible to allow some clients to host their own login forms (on their site), that POSTS to our app? Is cross-domain posting considered bad practise in any way? Are there any pitfalls to be aware of? And lastly, how is SSL taken care of given that our site always runs on HTTPS, but client sites may not? Can this be circumvented with an iframe?
What you are trying to reinvent is called openid.
What you need to do is provide a openid service, and then users can make there own login forms that connect to your open id server.
I have a great example of such a site: http://www.stackoverflow.com that uses google and others as openid service to log in, making there own login form.
What you're trying to do is generally referred to as Single Sign-On (SSO). This can be implemented using a variety of technologies.
The general idea is to separate the Service Provider (SP) (also sometimes called Resource Provider), which is what provides the actual service the user is going to use, from the Identity Provider (IdP), which is where the user's identity is verified.
The simplePHP library provides implementations for both IdP and SP authenticating layer using a number of SSO standards: SAML, Shibboleth (also SAML-based), OpenID, ...
Note that if you're using a standard, the IdP shouldn't need to be implemented using the same implementation as the one you've chosen for your service. It could be possible to have an IdP implemented in Java using the Shibboleth libraries and use it in conjunction with an SP that uses simplePHP, for example.
Which of these techniques you use will depend on the kind of information your require after authentication, for example if extra attributes are required, and how trust is managed between the IdPs and the SPs.
Typically, a simple OpenID system will be rather straightforward to integrate, from an SP point of view, but it will be quite limited in what it can assert about the user. In contrast, Shibboleth has a number of options to specify which SP can see which user attributes and what IdPs are meant to release or not, but it requires a more substantial infrastructure: this is typically done in a federation, where all the parties exchange a set of metadata configuration that comprises X.509 certificates they use to trust each others' assertions.
Since the authentication will happen outside your administrative boundaries, you can't really control how the users will have authenticated (unless this is part of a more formal agreement, such as in a Shibboleth federation). The OpenID provider could potentially let users authenticate over plain HTTP even if your service requires HTTPS. (This being said, most serious OpenID providers do it securely, and it's up to the user to pick one their trust anyway.)
Never embed the IdP page in your service: make the user go to a their IdP page instead. For an authentication system to be secure (as far as the user is concerned), it is essential that the user be able to see what they're typing their passwords in. By using an iframe, you would effectively hide the real site behind (and logos are easy to grab/forge). (The StackExchange OpenID provider has some problems in that respect.)
I have written an API for my latest project. Written entirely in PHP, it currently supports web and mobile applications. We would like to expand that to desktop applications as well, but I'm not exactly sure how to enable to user to login through the desktop application, while still protecting the username and password from said application.
There are many brilliant developers on Stackoverflow, so shoot me some brilliant answers!
The application will be developed by 3rd parties, so I want to ensure they aren't able to store usernames and passwords
If the application has to send usernames and passwords, then it has to be able to have access to them, so don't use them inside the application at all.
Use OAuth. This is the solution used by quite a lot of large organisations, including Twitter.
There are many possibilities. What comes to mind:
Issue a Certificate signed by your CA and verify later, eg via the OpenSSL lib or Apache.
Use Public key encryption, eg via GnuPG lib, and grant access only to known pub keys.
Use any kind of Token based authentication or any other two factor authentication..
Just give them another set of API credentials (Secret Key, API Key)
its a desktop application, it has full access to the users keyboard and memory. if the application should have a login form where end users type in their usernames and passwords, the application has this data by definition.
the only solution would be to distribute the login-application yourself which does some sort of toked based authentication and provide the 3rd party applications a login token via your api.
oauth and other singe-sign-on systems on the web usually use an iframe or popup which comes from the system-to-login-to itself. no 3rd party website or application should be allowed to provide this input fields.
what is phpmyid exactly?
can I use it for logging into yahoo mail?
which steps I must follow?
Well, basically OpenID is a way to authenticate yourself to various places (websites) by verifying your identity as the owner of a particular URL (say, a website of your own)
I can't understand it's explanation exactly.
OpenID is a way of using one ID for multiple sites. Think of it like using a Facebook login to register on multiple sites, just without the Facebook account.
The great thing about OpenID is that it's based on secure principles, and you only have to remember one password to identify yourself to any site that chooses to implement OpenID.
The problem, however, is that OpenID relies on OID providers. If you want to maintain your own identity, you're pretty much out of luck. You still have to hand over some of your identity to a third party who maintains your identity to serve it to any website which you authorize to use your identity to log you in.
PHPMyID allows you to essentially be your own identity provider. Instead of registering on one centralized provider to maintain your profile, you set up the script and run it on your own server. This way, you retain control of your own identity, while still using one login for any website that supports OpenID.
Note, of course, that PHPMyID is no longer developed.
phpmyid is a buggy, insecure and unmaintained openid implementation that you should not bother with. See this page for the juicy details.
I am planning on creating a number of web applications that allows the user to share an account between these applications. I am using apache, php and mysql.
My question is, is it possible for the user to login on one server and then be able to use all the applications with these login details. I was thinking of using some kind of web service/api that can be accessed by the other applications but I am not entirely sure that this is the best way.
Thanks in advance.
You might want to go for the popular OpenID:
OpenID is an open standard that
describes how users can be
authenticated in a decentralized
manner, obviating the need for
services to provide their own ad hoc
systems and allowing users to
consolidate their digital identities.
There is also OAuth authentication system:
OAuth (Open Authorization) is an open
standard for authorization. It allows
users to share their private resources
(e.g. photos, videos, contact lists)
stored on one site with another site
without having to hand out their
credentials, typically username and
password.
Yes I would build an authentication service. Then I would register within that service which applications the user can use.