I have a small question about crawling a web page in PHP. I have to crawl about 90 000 products on one big eshop. I tried it in PHP, but one product takes about 2-3 sec and that's bad. Any tips, how to do it faster? Maybe a C++ multithread version? But what about time of a HTTP request? I mean, is it PHP's limitation or not? Thank you for the tips.
That's an extremely vague question. When you benchmarked the code you have, what was the slowest part? Was it network transfer times? Using a different language (or multiple threads) won't change that.
Was it time spent parsing the page? How are you doing that? If you're using an XML library to parse the entire DOM, could you get away with just looking for keywords (or even regular expressions)? That's less precise (and in some sense less correct) but perhaps it's faster.
What algorithms are you using for your analysis? Would other data structures provide better performance? As one simple example, if you spend a lot of time iterating over an array, perhaps a hash map is more appropriate.
PHP can be run in multiple processes. What happens if you kick off multiple instances of your script at once (on different pages)? Does the total time decrease?
Ultimately you've described a very general problem so I can't offer very specific solutions, but there is no inherent reason why PHP is inappropriate for this task. When you've identified what's slow (regardless of what language you're using) you should be able to more precisely address how to fix it.
I don't think it's PHPs problem but it could be depending on connection speed/computer speed. I've never had a speed problem with PHP/cURL though.
Just do multiple threads (ie. multiple connections at once), I suggest you use cURL but that's only because I'm familiar with it.
Here's a guide I've used for multiple threads for scraping with cURL:
http://semlabs.co.uk/journal/object-oriented-curl-class-with-multi-threading
Be VERY careful not to accidentally cause a denial of service situation with your scripts. But I'm sure you're already away of that possibility.
If your program is running slowly, my advice would be to run a profiler on it, and analyse why it's running slowly.
This advice applies to any language, but in the case of PHP, the profiler software you need is called xDebug.
This is a PHP extension, so you need to install it into your server. If you're running on an ISP's server, then you may not have permission to do this, but you can always install it with PHP on your local PC and run your tests there.
Once you've got xDebug installed, switch on the profiling features in PHP.ini (see the xDebug documentation for instruction on this), and run your program. It will then generate profiler files, which can be used to analyse what the program is doing.
Download KCacheGrind to perform the analysis. This will generate call tree information, showing exactly what happened as the program ran, and how long every function call took.
With this information, you can look for the function calls that are running slowly, and work out what's happening. Usually the reason for slow code is some kind of inefficiency in the way something is written; xDebug will help you find it.
Hope that helps.
You have 99% probability that PHP is NOT the problem. It is rather the eshop webserver or any other network latency.
I know this for sure because I have been doing this for months now, and even if your code has lots of regular expressions, data scraping is really fast in PHP.
The solution to speed this ? Pre cache all the website with a command line crawler since disk space is cheap. curl can do this, and httrack as well. It will be much faster and stable than PHP doing the crawling.
Then let PHP do the parsing alone, you will see hopefully PHP chomping dozens of pages per minute, hope this helps :)
I'm trying to track down issues with an application [modx] I have several of these sites [about 10] on my server & was wondering how I can see what php is doing.
Pages on these sites are extremely slow while the same sites in dev are fine as are other php applications on the server.
I tried using xdebug to get an idea of what php was doing while processing these pages & where the bottleneck was occurring, but it only appeared to want to do anything on an error [there are no errors being thrown]
Any suggestions on how to track this down?
[linux/Centos5/php5.2.?/apache2]
Xdebug and webgrind are a nice way to see where your bottel necks are...
Read XDEBUG_PROFILE and Webgrind
Set up the php.ini to have xdebug profile your code on every run or if a special param is passed, then setup webgrind to read from the same directory xdebug writes its profile dumps to.
Webgrind will show you what functions and set of functions require the most time, it breaks it down and makes it easy to find slow and/or inefficient code. (eg. your script is calling "PDOStatement->execute" 300 times on a fast query [Or calling it once and a massively slow one] taking up 90% of the execution time).
The most commonly used tool, for finding bottlenecks in PHP, would be Xdebug. But you should also manually examine the codebase.
There are three different areas where you will have to focus on:
frontend performance
SQL queries
php logic itself
.. and the impact on the perceived speed is in this order.
You should start by running ySlow, and make sure that your site follows the guidelines as closely as possible.
The next step would be tracking down what SQL queries are executed, and (assuming you are using mysql) try to run them with EXPLAIN. Also, check the queries themselves. There might be some extremely stupid code there, like ORDER BY RAND() or use of LIKE in huge tables.
And the last stage would fixing it all would a hard looks at the code itself. Both on PHP and JavaScript side of things.
Also , you should upgrade to PHP 5.3, because your version is extremely outdated.
Usually when you don't know what you're looking for, you cannot spot it with tools like xdebug or other plugins/debug bars etc built into CMS/Framework, new relic is the simplest solution - you'll be able to spot bottlenecks after few min.
while new relic is a paid app, you can test if for free for first 14 days - it's more than enough to find problem.
It's great because it integrates all other tool's and data sources you usually use:
xdebug, cpu & i/o monitoring, mysql slowlog, queries log.
It will also show you if your app is slow on php/DB/frontend/network.
You should try it out instead of wasting time for debugging with other tools.
here is a guide for centos installation: https://newrelic.com/docs/php/php-agent-installation-redhat-and-centos
I'm using xdebug with PHP to do some performance profiling. But when I run the same script more than once, I often get very different times. So it's hard to know how much faith to put in the results.
Obviously there's a lot happening on a machine that can affect PHP's performance. But is there anything I can do to reduce the number of variables, so multiple tests are more consistent?
I'm running PHP under Apache, on Mac OS X.
Reduce the number of unrelated services on the box as much as possible.
Cut down on the number of Apache processes.
Prime the various caches by loading your script a few times. Possibly use a benchmarking tool like Apache's ab or siege, to make sure all Apache children are hit.
Profile your script from the command line using curl or wget so that Apache only serves one resource: the script itself.
There may be an argument for getting more "real world" numbers by omitting some of these steps. I look forward to other answers this question may receive.
There are two different tasks, measuring performance and finding problems.
For measuring the time it takes, you should expect variability, because it depends on what else is going on in the machine. That's normal.
For finding problems, what you need to know is the percent of time used by various activities. Percent doesn't change too much as a function of other things, and the exact value of the percent doesn't matter much anyway.
What matters is that you find activities responsible for a healthy percent, that you can fix, and then that you fix them. When you do, you can expect to save time up to that percent, but the finding is what you need to do. The measuring is secondary.
Added: You might want to ask "Don't you have to measure in order to find?"
Consider an example. Suppose you run your program with debugging turned on, and you randomly pause it, and you see it in the process of closing a log file. You continue it, and then pause it again, and see the same thing. Well that rough "measurement" says it's spending 100% of its time doing that. Naturally, the time spent doing it isn't really 100%, but whatever it is, it's big, and you've found it. So then maybe you don't have to open/close the file so often, or something. Typically, more samples are needed, but not too many.
As others have said, reduce the running services and programs to a minimum
Run your test multiple times in succession and average to account for outliers
Make sure caching of any sort is disabled (unless you specifically want to test it with a cache)
If the results still vary widely, the problem is most likely in your profiling code. It might have some racing conditions or depends on network connections. You will get more details if you provide the code
You also might be hitting some bottlenecks on some of the runs. If you profile carefully different parts of the scripts you might be able to catch it.
I am currently developing a PHP MVC Framework for a personal project. While I am developing the framework I am interested to see any notable performance by implementing different techniques for optimization. I have implemented a crude BenchMark class that logs mircotime.
The problem is I have no frame of reference for execution times. I am very near the beginnig of this project with a database connection and a few queries but no output (bar some debugging text and BenchMark log). I have a current execution time of 0.01917 seconds.
I was expecting this to be lower but as I said before I have no frame of reference. I appreciate there are many variables to take into account when juding performance but I am hoping to find some sort of metric to
a) techniques to measure performance for example requests per second and
b) compare results for example; how a "moderately" sized PHP application on a "standard" webserver will perform. I appreciate "moderately" and "standard" are very subjective words so perhaps a table of known execution times for a particular application (eg StackOverFlow's executing time).
What are other techniques of measuring performance are there other than execution time?
When looking at MVC Framework Performance Comparisom it talks about Requests Per Second (RPS). How is this calculated? I am guessing with my current execution time of 0.01917 seconds can handle 52 RPS (= 1 / 0.01917 ). This seems to be significantly lower than that quoted on the graph especially when you consider my current limited funcitonality.
To benchmark a certain page, use ab. To benchmark a load of pages on the server, try siege.
However... both of those are still mostly artificial tests. I personally add some extra logs too.
Page load time in the webserver (or proxy, whatever)
Slow query logging in the database
Query count logging per page too if possible, that way you'll know how heavy your pages are ;)
You can use xdebug to profile your code. But you are optimizing way too early in the development process. Just the act of calling microtime is going to slow things down since it has to make a call out to the system (outside the PHP engine). Every include, object creation, connection to another resource (i.e. database) is going to add a lot of overhead, relatively speaking.
If you design your system to be very cache friendly, then you don't have to execute code. For example, WordPress is very slow. About 15 pages/sec on a decent web server. It does a lot of includes and runs a lot of code. But add the SuperCache plugin and performance increases 10x. It works by creating a cache file and using some Apache rules so PHP doesn't have to be run at all.
I wish to create a background process and I have been told these are usually written in C or something of that sort. I have recently found out PHP can be used to create a daemon and I was hoping to get some advice if I should make use of PHP in this way.
Here are my requirements for a daemon.
Continuously check if a row has been
added to MySQL database table
Run FFmpeg commands on what was
retrieved from database
Insert output into MySQL table
I am not sure what else I can offer to help make this decision. Just to add, I have not done C before. Only Java and PHP and basic bash scripting.
Does it even make that much of a performance difference?
Please allow for my ignorance, I am learning! :)
Thanks all
As others have noted, various versions of PHP have issues with their garbage collectors. Of course, if you know that your version does not have such issues, you eliminate that problem. The point is, you don't know (for sure) until you write the daemon and run it through valgrind to see if the installed PHP leaks or not on any given machine. So on that hand, you may write it just to discover that what Zend thinks is fixed might still be buggy, or you are dealing with a slightly older version of PHP or some extension. Icky.
The other problem is somewhat buggy signals. In my experience, signal handlers are not always entered correctly with PHP, especially when the signal is queued instead of merged. That may not be an issue for you, i.e. if you just need to handle SIGINT/SIGUSR1/SIGUSR2/SIGHUP.
So, I suggest:
If the daemon is simple, go ahead and use PHP. If it looks like its going to get rather complex, or allocate lots of memory, you might consider writing it in C after prototyping it in PHP.
I am a pretty die hard C person. However, I see nothing wrong with hammering out something quick using PHP (beyond the cases that I explained). I also see nothing wrong with using PHP to prototype something that may or may not be later rewritten in C. For instance, handling database stuff is going to be much simpler if you use PHP, versus managing callbacks using other interfaces in C. So in that instance, for a 'one off', you will surely get it done much faster.
I would be inclined to perform this task with a cron job, rather than polling the database in a daemon.
It's likely that your FFmpeg command will take a while to do it's thing, right? In that case, is it really necessary to be constantly polling the database? Wouldn't a cronjob running each minute (or every five, ten or twenty minutes for that matter) be a simpler way to achieve the same thing?
Php isn't any better or worse for this kind of thing than any of the other common scripting languages. It has fairly complete access to all of the system calls and library utilities you would need to do this sort of work. If you are most comfortable using PHP for scripting, then php will do the job for you.
The only down side is that php is not quite as ubiquitous as, say, perl or python, which is installed on almost every flavor of unix. Php is only found on systems that are going to be serving dynamic web content. Not that a Php interpreter is too large or costly to install also, but if your biggest concern is getting your program to many systems, that may be a slight hurdle.
I'll be contrary and recommend you try the php daemon. It's apparently the language you know the best. You'll presumably incorporate a timer in any case, so you can duplicate the querying frequency on the database. There's really no penalty as long as you aren't naively looping on a query.
If it's something not executed frequently, you could alternatively run the php from cron, letting youor code drain the queue and then die.
But don't be afraid to stick with what you know best, as a first approximation.
Try not to use triggers. They'll impose unnecessary coupling, and they're no fun to test and debug.
One problem with properly daemonizing a PHP script is that PHP doesn't have interfaces to the dup() or dup2() syscalls, which are needed for detaching the file descriptors.
A cron-job would probably work just fine, if near-instant actions is not required.
I'm just about to put live, a system I've built, based on the queueing daemon 'beanstalkd'. I send various small messages from (in this case, PHP) webpage calls to the daemon, and a PHP script then picks them up from the queue and performs various tasks, such as resizing images or checking databases (often passing info back via a Memcache-based store).
To avoid long-running processes, I've wrapped it in a BASH script, that, depending on the value returned from the script ("exit(1);") will restart the script, for every (say) 50 tasks it's performed. If it's restarting because I plan it to, it will do so instantly, any other exit value (the default is 0, so I don't use that) would pause a few seconds before it was restarted.
Running as a cron job with sensibly determined periodicity, a PHP script can do the job, and production stability is certainly achievable. You might want to limit the number of simultaneous FFMpeg instances, and be sure to have complete application logging and exception handling. I have implemented continuously running polling processes in Java, as well as the every-ten-minute cron'd PHP script, and both do the job nicely.
You might want to consider making a mysql trigger that executes a system command (i.e. FFmpeg) instead of a daemon. If some lag isn't a problem, you could also put something in cron that executes every few minutes to check. Cron would be my choice, if it is an option.
To answer your question, php is perfectly fine to run as a daemon. It does not have to be done in C.
If you combine the answers from Kent Fredric, tokenmacguy and Domster you get something useful.
php is probably not good for long execution times,
so let's keep every execution cycle short and make sure the OS takes care of the cleanup of any memoryleaks.
As a tool to start your php script cron can be a good tool.
And if you do it like that, there is not much difference between languages.
However, the question still stands.
Is php even capable to run as a normal daemon for long times (some years)?
Or will assorted memoryleaks eat up all your ram and kill the system?
/Johan
If you do so, pay attention to memory leaks. PHP 5.2 has some problems with its garbage collector, according to this (fixed in 5.3). Perhaps its better to use cron, so the script starts clean every run.
For what you've described, I would go with a daemon. Make sure that you stick a sleep in the poll loop, so that you don't bombard the database when there are no new tasks. A cronjob works better for workflow/report type of jobs, where there isn't some particular event that triggers the next run.
As mentioned, PHP has some problems with memory management. You need to be sure that you test your code for memory leaks, since these would build up over time, in a long running script. PHP doesn't have real garbage collection - It relies on reference counting, which means that cyclic references will cause leaks. If you're aware of this, you can code around it.
If you do decided to go down the daemon route, there is a great PEAR module called System_Daemon which I've recently used successfully on a PHP v5.3.0 installation. It is documented on the authors blog: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/create_daemons_in_php
If you have PEAR installed, you can install this module using:
pear install -f System_Daemon
You will also need to create a initialisation script: /etc/init.d/<your_daemon_name>
Then you can:
Start Daemon: /etc/init.d/projNotifMailDaemon start
Stop Daemon: /etc/init.d/projNotifMailDaemon stop
Logs are kept at: /var/log/<your_daemon_name>.log
I wouldn't recommend it. PHP is not designed for longterm execution. Its designed primarily with short lived pages.
In my experience PHP can have problems with leaking memory for some of the larger tasks.
A cron job and a little bit of bash scripting should be everything you need by the sounds of it. You can do things like:
$file=`mysqlquery -h server < "select file from table;"`
ffmpeg $file -fps 50 output.a etc.
so bash would be easier to write, port and maintain IMHO than to use PHP.
If you know what you are doing sure. You need to understand your operating system well. PHP generally isn't suited for most daemons because it isn't threaded and doesn't have a decent event based system for all tasks. However if it suits your needs then no problem. Modern PHP (5.3+) is really stable and doesn't have any memory leaks. As long as you enable the GC and don't implement your own memory leaks, etc you'll be fine.
Here are the stats for one daemon I am running:
uptime 17 days (last restart due to PHP upgrade).
bytes written: 200GB
connections: hundreds
connections handled, hundreds of thousands
items/requests processed: millions
node.js is generally better suited although has some minor annoyances. Some attempts to improve PHP in the same areas have been made but they aren't really that great.
Cron job? Yes.
Daemon which runs forever? No.
PHP does not have a garbage collector (or at least, last time I checked it did not). Therefore, if you create a circular reference, it NEVER gets cleaned up - at least not until the main script execution finishes. In daemon process this is approximately never.
If they've added a GC in new versions, then yes you can.
Go for it. I had to do it once also.
Like others said, it's not ideal but it'll get-er-done. Using Windows, right? Good.
If you only need it to run occasionally (Once per hour, etc).
Make a new shortcut to your firefox, place it somewhere relevant.
Open up the properties for the shortcut, change "Target" to:
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" http://localhost/path/to/script.php
Go to Control Panel>Scheduled Tasks
Point your new scheduled task at the shortcut.
If you need it to run constantly or pseudo-constantly, you'll need to spice the script up a bit.
Start your script with
set_time_limit(0);
ob_implicit_flush(true);
If the script uses a loop (like while) you have to clear the buffer:
$i=0;
while($i<sizeof($my_array)){
//do stuff
flush();
ob_clean();
sleep(17);
$i++;
}