I have a shared hosting plan (linux).
i followed a lot of guides and questions guides:
setting up websockets without command line
https://www.sitepoint.com/how-to-quickly-build-a-chat-app-with-ratchet/
and some others about connecting to SSH using Putty, phpShell, etc, etc...
A really lot of guides.
But nothing worked.
So, i am wondering if there is a way to know if my hosting service is blocking websockets or ssh connection or whatever i can use.
Why don't you use c panel as they restrict such services due to shared hosting setup.
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I am using a shared hosting in which i can't use node js.
But I want to create a real time application using laravel as per there https://laravel.com/docs/5.3/broadcasting doc they provide drivers they all uses node if I am not wrong.
I have also searched about https://github.com/Askedio/laravel-ratchet which works with laravel but it requires a ZMQ which I can't install on my shared hosting.
What should I do any ideas.
You could use Pusher and combine it with Laravel Echo. Echo is a front-end JS framework, so just include the assets and you should be fine.
I think it should be said that it's probably not a good idea to develop these kinds of apps on shared hosted servers, due to a couple of reasons:
You almost never have SSH access, so deploying and debugging is an immense pain
You can't install additional software you need, like NodeJS
Shared hosted servers often aren't build to run heavy php applications, they are build to serve simple websites (that's why they're so cheap)
Depending on your host, all other ports than 80 and 443 are closed, so usage of external services can be blocked
All in all, I think it's better to just get a cheap VPS (i.e. a DigitalOcean $10 plan) in which you can actually do all those things. Yes it's more expensive than shared hosting, but if that's really the game-changer, find a sponsor or partner. $120 is a piece of cake compared to the pains of using shared hosting, and that's speaking out of experience.
I am using nodejs and php on my website but when I want to host it on a server they told me there is no server that can run both node and php.
Is there anything that could take the place of nodejs and do the same work not requiring a server for it? I am using nodejs and socket to make realtime updates for my website .
A couple of options are DigitalOcean, AWS (Amazon Webservices) and Heroku.
Personally, I'd go with DigitalOcean. IMO it's the best for small projects; user friendly (good for beginners as well as advanced users), neat stability, easy scalability and best of all: insanely affordable. You can run both in one 'droplet' as you have full control over the OS.
You can do it at A2 Hosting
This allows Apache to act as a Proxy to the Node aplication,
A2 How to install and configure Node.js on managed hosting accounts
I'm trying to set up PHP websockets on my website. This works great on my local WAMP server, but on my website I keep getting a warning:
unable to bind address [98]: Address already in use in"
I tried various libraries, but they all return this error.
My guess is that the port I'm using in isn't free. The problem is, that I cannot access terminal since this is a shared server (according to phpinfo() websockets are enabled, btw) so I can't look for free ports. Also tried to use port 0 - but no luck.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT:
For instance, this is some code using https://github.com/Flynsarmy/PHPWebSocket-Chat
// start the server
$Server = new PHPWebSocket();
$Server->bind('message', 'wsOnMessage');
$Server->bind('open', 'wsOnOpen');
$Server->bind('close', 'wsOnClose');
// for other computers to connect, you will probably need to change this to your LAN IP or external IP,
// alternatively use: gethostbyaddr(gethostbyname($_SERVER['SERVER_NAME']))
$Server->wsStartServer($_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR'], 9300);
Well, Bluehost site writes: "We block access to certain ports to help avoid having security holes in the firewall...Purchasing a dedicated IP will allow us to grant you access to the ports you will need to run your specific services on.". The technical support guy told me otherwise. I guess case is closed. Thank you all for your time!
talhof9 I went through similar pain in trying to configure my shared hosting service, I didn't find a direct solution to get a shared *AMP server to support WebSockets, but I found a workaround that will at least let you test the commercial viability of the solution you are putting together (if that is indeed what you are looking for) without paying for all the headache of setting up,configuring and administering your own VPS.
Check out http://www.pusher.com for an easy websocket deployment library, that uses their Node server. The free sandbox version lets you play around to get it working, and once you want to test commercial viability you can upgrade to a paid plan.
Hope this helps!
(note I do not work for Pusher)
Most probably your hosting provider has, somehow, disabled PHP sockets. This makes sense because PHP is used to process webpages not create daemons and you're probably using a regular web hosting plan (not a dedicated server).
I would check in with your hosting provider - support forum or just call them.
A few days ago I setup this WebSocket server from http://code.google.com/p/phpwebsocket/
It works excellent on my localhost by using Xampp. Then, I uploaded it to my webspace on Strato, but now I am not able to connect to the server.
I changed the the sockets connection to my domain but it didn`t work
Client.html:
var host = "ws://xxxxxxxx.com:12345/Websocket/server.php";
Server.php:
$master = WebSocket("xxxxxx",12345);
I already tried it with different port(80,443,12345,8080,8000....), using the IP address in server.php instead of the domain.
I also used absolute and relative paths in the client.html.
From the projects page http://code.google.com/p/phpwebsocket/ someone suggested to use 0 or 0.0.0.0 in the server.php, but that didn`t work either.
In the client.html it just shows:
WebSocket - status 0
Disconnected - status 3
My guess that the problem is that Strato is blocks me from using WebSockets.
Is it possible to run WebSockets on my webspace?
My bet is that your host is blocking incoming requests to the socket. Your not supposed to run scripts like phpwebsocket within a web service (it is a server itself). This confuses a lot of people since PHP is typically used for scripting webpages, not for coding daemons.
I say this because you mentioned running the script within Xampp, and referred to your hosting service as 'webspace'.
If this is the case you will have to upgrade to a virtual server package so that you can run your own services.
Okay, to bring this to an end.
I found a solution to use my websockets app and I´ve got an explanation why it did not work on my shared hosting solution.
I contacted Strato who told me that they don`t allow Websocket on shared hosting. The only way to get a similiar result would be to use AJAX Long Pooling.
Now I purchased to a Virtual Server and my websocket app works great now.
Thanks for your support.
I'm trying to learn about node.js and there are tons of examples out there, but one question that I can't find an answer to or example is how does this work with web hosts (i'm using inmotionhosting.com)?
say I have a basic website www.url.com/index.php (note: I'm using PHP also). For this website to work, all I have to do is upload a file into my file manager in my web hosting site.
How does node.js work? do I just upload a node.js file into the web hosting also?
In all the examples, they are using localhost with port 8000 or something. Can someone shine some light?
Thanks!
you will need at least VPS hosting to install node.js, shared hosting won't allow you to install any application on your own, unless you they give you the option to do it.
then it all depends on how you have configured and what application is node.js serving, you can't really say where to upload files by default unless a path is set either from you or from webhosting..
from nodejs.org
Node.js is a platform built on Chrome's JavaScript runtime for easily building fast, scalable network applications. Node.js uses an event-driven, non-blocking I/O model that makes it lightweight and efficient, perfect for data-intensive real-time applications that run across distributed devices.
it doesn't say it specific for web use, instead you should use a web framework such as
ExpressJS where you can build you web application or any other stuff.. your host should provide further information on how to manage packages in your nodejs instance, configuration, etc..
some usefull links
Domain API
ExpressJS
ExpressJS examples
Here is something i came cross.
Hosting your node app?
Hosting Node Apps
nodeFu
Supported hosting providers?
Node Hosting
just read the descriptions for each section.