Access Session-Vars over multiple languages - php

Maybe my understanding of a session is off, but isn't a session stored in the browser? More like, as long as the browser is open, the session should be active, right? (If you don't change the default behaviour).
We have multiple languages in our project, which we are trying to get rid off. Currently, 90% of our code is running in classic asp and will be replaced with PHP.
If I try to access my variables in the asp-part, it works fine:
<%= session("name") %>
This outputs "Jon" for instance.
If I try to get this output via PHP like so:
<? var_dump($_SESSION); ?>
i simply get NULL. Needlessly to say, that <?= $_SESSION["name"] ?> doesn't work as well, then.
I'm never leaving the site, only the paths are different:
mysite.com/default.asp works fine
mysite.com/phptest/session.php only returns NULL when trying to access the session. Why is that? Both languages are running on an IIS. Do I have to somehow tell PHP to access the existing session?
I'm fairly certain, that I combined accessing Session-Vars in PHP + JavaScript before and that worked fine.

The session object is specific to Active Server Pages. If you have a mixed site that runs both PHP and ASP, you won't be able to use ASP session variables in your PHP pages. The objects and variables in Session are managed by ASP; the only thing the browser is involved with is keeping a reference to that session in a cookie.
What you could do is save the content of the session variables to a cookie, which could then be read by your PHP pages (with a little twist, apparently: Read classic ASP's cookies with PHP )
Hope this helps!

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Session Scope and why I can't access session in another directory file

I've following two path
path1- test/hello/hello.php
path2- test/hello1/hello1.php //notice the one in the directory after test/
hello.php
<?php
session_start();
$_SESSION['name1'] = 'abcd1';
?>
other file is
hello1.php
<?php
session_start();
echo $_SESSION['name1'];
?>
In one computer I am able to get the value in hello1.php
In another computer I am not getting value in hello.php
In both the PC I had clear storage, ran Hello.php for session to set. Hello1 has value in One pc , in another I don't have value.
What might be the issue?
Also, what is the correct work, In general will I get session value Outside test folder OR everywhere inside test folder or only in the parent directory of the file where session was created.
Please don't forget the original issue.
Also one comment I don't know if its realated, I have 2 xampp in 2 drive in the pc where hello1.php gave the value. does'nt it affect anything?
In short I want concept of Session WRT to directories/ also about framework, does framework make restrictions to accessing variable outside their core project folder.
You told us nothing about how your PHP is configured, so there is a very extensive list of things which could be going wrong - far too many to list here. Make sure your error reporting/logging is working correctly (and that no errors or warnings are being produced). Have a look at the path, name and value of the cookies being emitted by the server for both pages using firebug or developer tools.
Sessions are preserved across requests and use cookies set on the browser to access the data. Your computers have different cookies, and thusly different sessions.
Read more about this in another answer
Ultimately you need to think about if you are using the right tools to accomplish this goal.

Pass data from smarty to php

Smarty lets you use PHP tags but for some reason session_start does not work in Smarty. I could not find out how.
I can't pull out a session variable in a PHP file from a smarty template.
What I need is very simple. Pass data from Smarty (TPL) to a php file. Same server, same domain, same host. Some people asked this before but exactly the other way around. Notice that I don't want to pass data from PHP to Smarty, but the other way around.
Using get, post or cookies is unsafe and a database would be overkill since all I need is make sure the USER A is still the USER A when he lands on the php page. Sessions are perfect and they are exactly for this, but since I cannot start a php session in Smarty it seems there is no way to connect them together. Using curl with a post command like this was an external page would very overkill, because both pages are in the same server, and both are executing exactly the same php server, so why is this so hard? Something like this should be simple but it seems its not. Not at least without exposing this to the user with get or post.
Does someone know a safe way to do this or connect them?

PHP Session not written after Output(echo or print_r on external ajax Call)

I´m having some serious trouble debugging this particular problem and I hope someone has a clue what i´m doing wrong.
I have a Custom CMS system working that uses Paragraphs as building blocks that get updated using Ajax(prototypejs) calls and functions that parse the HTML chunks in given order, clean them up and save this data in associative arrays in a Session variable.
Users log in, Session is created and I can check for this session without problem in every page I need it. The system works directly on the definitive websites, so the user can see his updates on realtime and browse the site as a normal user would do, but editing.
So, nothing new here. But here is the weird thing.
Enduser site on edit mode(admin user logged in): path "/"
After the logged status is verified, a function processes the editable content and saves an associative array to session, it also starts some javascript objects for editing every paragraph. Data is actually saved, I can use an external script to check if it´s there after this php script ends.If I load a new page(new content), Session gets updated with new data)
Admin User modifies a paragraph using an Inplaceeditor and this HTML chunk is send via Ajax to a php script that starts the named session, reads the present session data, checks if a paragraph should be modified, appended or deleted and reassigns values to existing array keys in $_SESSION. if i make a var_dump() o print_r to $_SESSION after assigning new data is there.After that the script echoes the processed html, and ajax updates the original paragraph on the calling page.
This script is in /admin/cms/...etc, that means at least 4 directories inside the root of the site.
When the script ends, I check using the same session dump script to see if data was really written/commited, but no, $_SESSION has only the original data from the calling page.
Same ID, same session name, same session_start() but no data gets written.
This whole operation is very quick, so I though it could be a speed problem, scripts ends before session_write_close can make his work.
But if I add a new key to $_SESSION array and put some data there, data gets updated and written. If i don´t output anything on this script and just process data and set session variables it also get´s updated and written.
It´s like some members of $_SESSION array are getting blocked to update.
What i did to track this error and what i´m sure i´m not doing wrong.
1.- register_globals are off of course
2.- session_name() and session_start() are always present and in the given
order. I used to have multiple
session_start() -close on a same page
to use several named sessions, but to
refine the problem this is not longer
so.
3.- I use session_write_close() after session data is processed. Also
tried without, letting php decide
when to commit data, but no luck.
4.- I`m using only cookies for SID.
5.- sessions are stored on /tmp, i can see the data getting updated.
I also tried using a custom save
handler on DB, but same problem,
"_write" got only called when no output as present.
I searched php.net, stackoverflow, google, etc for this subject. I never ask without investigation, this is my first time in many years...but it´s just so unlogical it must be something tiny a haven´t thought of.
The most weird thing is that when I just process data without output $_SESSION gets updated ok. But if i modify this script afterwards by adding the output and try again, instead of just having the new(last) value present I get the original value back, the one created by the calling page at first place, sometimes after playing around a few times! PHP can´t cache values between scripts or?I dont have globlals on.
I´m really clueless. This system worked flawless on PHP4.3, since i´m using 5.3.3 for two moths my users where caliming data where getting mixed up, so i checked and yes, there are serious problems. Today I updated to (5.3.6) and I can´t get this session values commited.
Script code called via Ajax:
<?
session_cache_limiter('nocache');
session_name("CMS_ses");
session_start();
include('../htmLawed/htmLawed.php');
include("utils_cms.php");
include("../../../php/utils_array.php");
$value=$_POST['value'];
$editorId=$_POST['editorId'];
$clase=$_POST['clase'];
$editorId=str_replace("pre","",$editorId);
$value=html_entity_decode(stripslashes($value),ENT_QUOTES);
if (strlen(trim($value))==0)
{
die();
}
$value="<div id=\"$editorId\" class=\"$clase\">$value</div>";
$newXHTML=$value;
$retorno=CMS_nuevoBloque($newXHTML,$editorId);
$_SESSION['data']['CMSeditores']=$retorno[1];
$_SESSION['data']['CMScont']=$retorno[2];
session_write_close();
print_r($retorno[0]); //Offending part...without everything works
?>
really nothing strange here....main page code is even simpler, no strange php directives, etc.
Here is the header of the caller page
include 'php/db.php';
$len=$_GET['len'];
$sec=$_GET['sec'];
$cont=$_GET['cont'];
$admfin=$_GET['admfin'];
$fecha=$_GET['fecha'];
$token=$_GET['token'];
$cur=$_GET['cur'];
$PHP_SELF=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
session_cache_limiter('nocache');
session_name("CMS_ses");
session_start();
$passvar='';
unset($adm);
if ((!empty($_SESSION['cms_logged'])) and (!isset($admfin)) )
{
$nivelpermisos=$_SESSION['cms_logged_group'];
$useractual=$_SESSION['cms_logged'];
$adm=1;
}
elseif (empty($_SESSION['cms_logged']))
{
unset($useractual);
}
//.........rest of the code
UPDATE: I did late night tests and found someting i don´t understand.HElP please:
It has not only to do with Sessions but also with Mysql Querys. Same code, but instead of trying to write to $_SESSION array i made a simple update to a Innodb table using the session_id. When i Output some code, the update does get executed,(i can output the query string and no mysql_error() or notice) problems, but checking the database the row doesn´t get updated. Letting the output out if the script and Query does get commited. Only common thing is sessions are started and output is made.
I restarted Apache, etc(who knows) but no luck. Then i made something really stupid, because this is a server side thing. I changed my browser to Firefox(using safari) and everything works! Ok, recheck, back to safari, nothing works. Both running side by side, same issue. PHP is server side, how can different browsers handle code different, can a browser say to apache rollback, request not handled or call the same script twice without notice(checked safaris developer console and the script is called only once) ? Can safari resubmit data silently because it "thinks" ajax failed? I checked headers using firebug and Safaris developer tools , nothing strange but whenever i make a Ajax call with safari, the caller page reloads data(Aka conection to server...).
I really don´t understand nothing.
I had a similar problem to this (if I have understood correctly). I needed to force session data to be written (for a custom session driver) after scripts have finished running. A shutdown function can be registered which should run after scripts have finished.
Maybe this will solve (or help you to solve) your problem.
http://php.net/manual/en/function.register-shutdown-function.php
Thank's for your help. I was doing everything in the right order and still session data was not being written. Session names where necesary because sometimes we test many sites on the same domain using the same custom CMS. So, finally, after making lots of test and no luck, i found that register globals was active on this server(we never use it, code was written having this option off in mind of course), but it messes with sessions!. Switching this off made a huge change. No more problemas. I also made a custom session handler in DB, so i could track the problems in an more centralized way.
Conclussion: Never use register globals + named sessions, an complex data in sessions.
Anyway, i will give this issue more time and more tests. Ajax calls are also sometimes too fast, i had to put a sleep command so writing the session data was really done.Thanks
I am not sure but few suggestion i think may be helpful.
delete session cookies before refreshing the page for testing purposes :)
Ensure that you're not assigning any arrays with a key containing the pipe character (|). This will prevent the session data from being serialized and saved.
Do session_regenerate_id(true); many cases session_write_close doesn't seem to matter with out session_regenerate_id. or just do session_start() after session_write_close() if you are relying on SID ; and in your case i think this is what is causing problem to you as you are ending the current session every time and not re starting it for the next page. hope u get my point. Further more To Make sure data is actually flushed out to the browser use ob_end_flush();
i could not understand the connection between
$_SESSION['data']['CMSeditores']=$retorno[1];
$_SESSION['data']['CMScont']=$retorno[2];
and
$nivelpermisos=$_SESSION['cms_logged_group'];
$useractual=$_SESSION['cms_logged'];
i think you need to paste some more code where the data part is causing problem instead of admin login part.
i hope this helps you.:)
Is there any reason you're establishing the session name twice? I've had issues in the past where I would establish the session without a name, then another piece of script (not mine) was naming the session. Even at the end of the script I was able to print out the session variable, but once I went to a new page my session had been forgotten. It wasn't until I copied the name included in the 2nd script into my session call that it was solved.
Check that there's no other session names being used; also, maybe try only naming the session once, at the first call to the session?
Question: Are you calling session_start() first thing... before ANY output to the browser and before any variables are assigned?
Sounds silly but give it a try.
Also, why are you using session names? Really not necessary unless you have a lot of session variables with the same name serving different purposes and if thats the case then you need to fix that first!
I had a similar problem but it was having with ie few years back. IE manipulates the header on its own way and that causes strange php bugs that you can find in php.net archives.
#Diego Pino Navarro, please see this help page and find Safari and it's issues with php.
I also found "Safari "forget" http-authentication's logon-information".

can session variables survive from php -> html -> php?

the question is really simple, but i searched it many different ways and the results were not related to my question.
so if i have a session variable in a php file if i open an html page after that and then a php file again, will i be able to retrieve the data ? or do they all have to be adjacent?
I tried php->html->php but i couldn't get the variables on the other side. maybe Im doing something wrong.
Thanks in advance
Not 100% sure what you mean, but if by "open" you mean in the browser, the calls do not need to be adjacent. You just need to do a session_start() in every PHP script in which you want to use session data.
Adjacency is not something that is really relevant for this question.
in PHP way of things, sessions are essentially files that contain serialized data on the server. The browser that called a script containing session_start() call receives a special token that identifies the session on the server, and it is normally (though not necessarily) stored as a cookie.
This effectively means that any php script that uses session_start() and receives a session id (via cookie or otherwise) will read and could use session data, unless it was removed from the server file system between the calls, or the session has expired (frankly, I'm not sure whether PHP removes the expired sessions on the server side).
Accessing anything outside of this model with the browser (html page, or even other sites) will not affect it in any way, unless these actions change or remove session id.
yes...session variable can survive php->html->php.
But on every php page ...very first line should be session_start()
This easy way (I guess): Set a cookie storing the session ID on the first php page. This way, every other php page can access the session ID and use it to restore the stored data, not matter how many (even foreign) pages were in between.

Session from javascript

I'd like to inspect the session variable. Best case something that works in the firebugs little interpreter, but if I have to put it in the file thats fine. Right now I just made a short PHP to output $_SESSION, but if I could find something analogous to be done right in the browser that would be ideal. document.cookie doesn't seem to do what im looking for, at least not that i see.
Basically looking for something analogous to $_SESSION that I can use in javascript
EDIT - was trying to see if i could get anything more than, or extract the meaning PHPSESSID=o147cf52u9d7qr251hc3n6ilu2; ASESSIONID=101wvpe-3FA77F204CFF55BA61E696AD3F62F0F8 on the client-side. As it stands I guess i can just write a small ajax function to a url that echos the session. Thanks for the help!
PS - Do those document.cookie values have anything to do with whats inside the session, or are they just identifiers to tell one session from another?
Session data is stored on the server. It isn't accessible to client-side JavaScript unless you manually expose it (e.g. by writing a PHP program that dumps it to JSON and delivers it over HTTP).
The browser just gets a cookie containing a token that identifiers which packet of session data the server side programs should open for a given client.
Just look at what cookies are set in your browser: Firefox,
Chrome, etc.
Edit: oooh, after re-reading your question, you want to ACCESS the session data.
That's not possible via JavaScript for very good reason. XSS would be a breeze. Besides, the data is stored on the server, which JS has no access to (thankfully).
It's not possible to do what you're asking.
I am using FirePHP to debug variables from my Ajax calls, maybe it is what you are looking for?
You can't access PHP sessions within JavaScript directly. You could however make an Ajax call to a PHP script which will return the PHP sessions. This is your best option.

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